Chinese fighter jets conduct unsafe maneuver near US aircraft/ again?

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  1. trucker

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    well well china is really doubling down now on the airspace close to that man made island of theirs, as if this is a real sticking point, but n. korea isn't any more as they say they are tightly
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...order-controls-n-korea-us-diplomat/102182938/
    the border to n. korea? or is that just a show for the world community..
    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/26/politics/chinese-fighter-jets-unsafe-maneuver-us-aircraft/
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why is trump and his military industrial complex generals pushing the envelope with china now over the island:wall: since the number one goal is trying to starve out n. korea using china as a partner, with this fly by with the spy plane[​IMG] only pisses off china and then causes them to befriend us..
     
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    Good thing Clinton isn't in office. We would be at war right now.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yah right.. so trump is playing a cat and mouse game with the island. dont yah think china knows this and will play with us also over the n. korea sanctions.. china isnt falling for trumps head fakes anymore they been study his tactics.
     
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    Yep, it's theirs and the US aircraft are literally half a world away from home.
    This is all the fault of US invasions of Chinese airspace in the SOUTH CHINA SEA.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/china-can-do-more-to-ease-n-korea-threat-says-us-official
    so the flyby US P-3 spy plane is the heat.. to have them bend over to us on n korea?
     
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    Indofred Banned at Members Request

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    Hang on, the fat reporter had a good moan about a Chinese aircraft in the South China sea doing an inverted flyby of the invading US spy plane.
    I wonder if she cheered Tom Cruise in Top gun when he did it and was seen as playing an American hero.

    It's great to shout it up in films but the Chinese can manage it in real life - Seems the US navy pilots are top goons.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    heck of a long supply line isnt it if it comes to a war for the us.. Taiwan is the next move for china and that island will be there foot hold .
     
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    Indofred Banned at Members Request

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    As a note, North Korea's latest missile can't reach the US or any of it's occupied islands, but maybe they will eventually pose a threat to the US occupied island of Guam.
     
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    Taiwan say's it's part of China, but they claim they are the legitimate government.
    Sod all to do with the US as it's an internal matter.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL yeah the other one
    s Susan Thornton, acting assistant secretary for East Asian and Pacific affairs
    [​IMG] isnt much to look at either:eekeyes:
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    true and so its a island war now:rant: for the military industrial complex to make a few more bucks over
     
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    I recall one excuse for potentially attacking NK was the possibility of a future NK missile being able to hit the US occupied island of Guam.
    The US moaning about the Chinese occupying a DISPUTED island that has sod all to do with the US is a bit off when you consider how the US took over several islands including Hawaii.
    Basically, apart from these Chinese islands being in the South China sea, the other nations can't exactly come up with a good reasons to show these bits of land belong to them. The places are in open seas and a long way outside normally accepted maritime borders so it's first come first served and there was no invasion or military takeover as the US did in Hawaii and Guam.

    The US is stirring up trouble and that's always down to who can make how much from what. The shipping lanes argument is pure cow dung as the sea lanes are easily wide enough for a thousand tankers side by side so you have to look at why the US is lying about its reasons to mess around in politics half a world away from the states.
     
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    US fleet is in Taiwan.
    China can't have it unless US leaves first.

    Pretty much hinges on US agreement, that one.
     
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    It's none of America's business, but that never stopped the US poking its nose in where it isn't wanted.
     
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    They are there in force and hence it's their business. Realpolitik.

    It's definitely poking it's nose in.

    It is not however, necessarily unwanted. Some of Taiwan wants America out and China in, and some of Taiwan want to keep China out and hence are very pleased to have America in.
    They also trade well together.

    It's political hot potato in Taiwan, just as it is in South Korea and even Japan. A highly contentious domestic issue.
     
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    Yes, your fleet is based illegally in part of China.
     
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    And of course lefties are rooting for China over Trump and America.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    w t heck? heres some military industrial complex news
    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...rt-37-billion-us-army-contract-300464632.html
     
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    What about International Air Space is difficult for you to understand? Or can I give you the benefit of a doubt and just consider it ignorance?

    I'm offering you the gift of ignorance since by your bold, capital, letters in Red..that your suggesting that because the Sea is named China they own the entire thing?

    Let me help educate you.

    These man made islands they have built and their attempts to exert sea and air restrictions around have been ruled as invalid by the International Court at the Hague
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    Please read the following excerpt from the Japan times and the article as well gives a nice synopsis. None of this effects Trumps relationship with Xi and China

    China, which despite a pledge to the contrary, has continued to militarize the waters as it seeks to reinforce effective control of much of the waterway, through which $5 trillion in trade passes each year. The Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei also have overlapping claims.

    Tokyo does not have any claims in the waters, but is embroiled in a separate dispute with Beijing in the East China Sea over the Senkaku Islands, which are known as the Diaoyus in China.

    China has built seven man-made islets in the South China Sea’s hotly contested Spratly chain, with three boasting military-grade airfields — including Mischief Reef — despite a 2015 vow by Chinese President Xi Jinping not to further “militarize” them. Beijing has called the moves purely defensive

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...-within-12-miles-china-claimed-mischief-reef/

     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i got a problem with video time 1:30
    principal judicial organ of the un, also know as the nwo :eek:
    three are women video time 4:35
     
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    I don't know what to tell you mate. It's international airspace until some build a SAM site there, and then it's not.
    Then it's Pwned airspace. Ownage.
     
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    Nifty little video.

    What I feel is pertinent is video time 5:50. Where it is stated that No country can be called to the court to dispute a case without their consent. The court hears all parties testimony then renders a legal binding ruling by International law.

    So in this case China who always will have a judge on the Court due to being 1 of the 5 permanent members of the UN Security Council consented to have the issue of the artificially made islands heard.

    Specifically a concern to me is their wish to be able to exert maritime and airspace distance controls around them as if it was their normal land or Islands. Also the militarization of them to support those efforts

    The excerpt and article below explain the condemnation of China's actions by the International Tribunal far better

    BEIJING — An international tribunal in The Hague delivered a sweeping rebuke on Tuesday of China’s behavior in the South China Sea, including its construction of artificial islands, and found that its expansive claim to sovereignty over the waters had no legal basis


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile...h-china-sea-hague-ruling-philippines.amp.html
     
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    If anyone has a problem with the US or Trump or our actions in that region supported by a binding ruling by the International Court in support of our allies against an aggressor?

    My suggestion to you is to just throw yourself on the floor and kick and scream and cry then get up when tired still sniveling and talk about Trumps hair. Because that's all you've got

    and all China has in regards to this is some pouting fly bys.

    It's a non issue in regards to NK and we the US will continue to work with China to resolve NK just fine.
     

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