Chinese Media - Syrian War Is Deadly Battle Between Nato & Russia

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One of China's largest media agencies says that the war in Syria might appear as a civil war, but in reality is a deadly battle between Russia and Nato countries. Syria is of great strategic importance, and by deploying troops, Russia has thwarted foreign occupation and prevented more drastic bloodshed in Syria and beyond.

    In other words, Russia is saving the Middle East from more harm, as well as keeping these extremist groups from entering the south of Russia.

    I realized this at the beginning of the war, when a Russian General said that Syria was a matter of survival to them. These attacks on Russia have been ongoing since the first Chechnyan war. Not only was Chechnya infiltrated then with jihadists from the Gulf, but with CIA agents as well. One needs only to see the picture of Yatsenuk in uniform and with the rebels to realize that.




    Jinri Toutiao, one of China’s largest media agencies, has unveiled an article arguing that while the conflict in Syria might seem like a civil war between government and opposition forces, it is in reality “a deadly battle between Russia and NATO countries.”

    According to the publication, Syria is of “great strategic importance”, and Russia’s deployment of troops to Syrian territory has thwarted foreign occupation and prevented more drastic bloodshed in Syria and beyond. “Otherwise, Syria would have been immediately occupied by the forces of other states or by anti-government troops. Then several extremist groups would go to the south of Russia,” the article says.

    Further, Jinri Toutiao pointed out that the United States, Britain and France have recently launched aggressive attacks on Syria, and the US aircraft carrier USS Harry Truman has entered the Mediterranean Sea.

    “It may seem that the aim of this maneuver is to carry out a new air strike. However, the main goal is to block the way to Syria across the Black Sea: since Russia has no common land border with Syria, through the sea,” the article analyzed.

    According to Chinese media, the NATO maneuvers in the Black Sea that took place in May also aimed to “put pressure on Russia.”



    https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/06/c...=wp&utm_campaign=push&utm_content=new-article

     
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    The ending of the link is very interesting: utm_campaign=push&utm_content=new-article
    This is a web query string, the address directs to whatever they call new-article, and there is a campaign they call “push”.
    I designed similar thing at work for my crew to monitor new requests.

    This list of propaganda website includes your source.
    https://snbchf.com/global-macro/russian-propaganda-sites/
    I’m beginning to have doubts that you live in the US. More likely a troll working overnight shift at the Internet Research Agency. You always post links to fake websites or post quotes without any backup.
     
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  3. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for the link and for giving me and others who are sick of the propaganda spewed out by the MSM, some alternative and more reality based sites to get on to.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now here's a direct quote from the Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu for those who prefer reality to the spins and lies spewed out by the MSM. Shoigu said there is no chance for any adversary to gain a foothold on Crimea with the Russian troops and their state-of-the-art weapons systems. So what exactly has Nato been doing?


    “Since the beginning of the year, 13 large-scale maneuvers involving more than 40,000 military personnel and 2,000 units of military equipment have been organized by the (Nato) Alliance in the strategic south-western region of Russia,” said the minister.

    As a reciprocal measure, the minister proposed to “combine strategic containment actions by increasing combat capabilities of the Southern Military District of Russia.”


    Defense Minister Shoigu also said:


    Although NATO has tried to indirectly attack Russia in Ukraine, South Ossetia and Syria, Moscow has resisted all these events successfully. The result can be seen with the liberation of Crimea, the self-declared independence of Lugansk and Donetsk, the preservation of South Ossetia’s sovereignty and the successful resistance of Syria against NATO-backed jihadist forces.

    Russia has played a pivotal role on all these fronts, effectively frustrating the US-led NATO alliance as it has not been able to achieve its power projections and weaken the Russian Federation.
     
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    If you look at the whole, unfortunately common BS propaganda chattering with the West is the evil and Russia is the best and take this nonsense away from your post ... well ... then the remaining core statement is even the truth.

    The conflict in Syria is nothing but a proxy war of the powers ... where Iran and Turkey play their own game, outside the proxy war.
     
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    No one said Russia is the best, but it's not Russia that is attacking the US or Nato. To compare the two would be like comparing a robber with the person who is being robbed. Up until now, everything Russia has done has been in response to what Washington and Nato did first. Can you deny that? If it was the other way around, then I would condemn Russia. I'm a strong believer in justice, and without prejudice.

    Anyway I like to post direct quotations, that way people are given the respect of forming their own opinion, rather than having it formed for them by the MSM.
     
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    Of course it's a proxy war.
     
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    Everything Washington does is to 'contain' Russia. By containment, they mean to surround and threaten it, whether it's in the Baltics, Balkans, Caucasus, Black Sea area, N. Korea, Syria or the Central Asian States. Russia knows this of course.

    Russia's survival depends on the Shia crescent in the Middle East that runs from Iran through Iraq to Syria, since they form a barrier between the terrorists from the Gulf and their own moderate Sunni's.

    Russia is also dependent on a friendly and neutral N. Korea. The first thing I did when Trump started his rants towards Kim, was to look at the distance between Vladisvostok and the N. Korean border. Vladisvostok is Russia's main port, and it's where its grain, LNG gas, timber and minerals are shipped from. It's less than 100 miles from the N. Korean border.

    As for the next battleground? It's Russia's continental shelf and legitimate claims around and near the North Pole. This is probably why Trump made a stink about Russia not allowing ships other than Russian ones to use its northern route, and also why so many Russian bases have been established in its north.
     
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    Don't worry, Jeanette,. Trump will probably work some kind of new trade deal with Russia, like maybe they can import more Russian bicycles or whatever Russia makes, and that could increase the price of bicycles sold in China and then that might have a chain reaction that could cause the EU to reconsider tariffs on US made bicycles.:)
     
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    1) UTM parameters are regularly used to monitor the effectiveness of publishing.
    2) all media is a form of propaganda
    3) most likely true on J being a troll
    4) yes, its a proxy war
     
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    Hence the reports that NATO officers had been captured, inside special-purpose operations and communication bunkers, by Syrian Special Forces when they recaptured two different cities (Aleppo and Douma). It seems these NATO officers were all repatriated though, assuming the reports were accurate.
     
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    Syria has NO strategic importance, little oil and mind blowing poverty.
     
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    "Russia's survival depends on the Shia crescent in the Middle East that runs from Iran through Iraq to Syria, since they form a barrier between the terrorists from the Gulf and their own moderate Sunni's."

    My God.. you think Russia's survival is based on the Shia?
     
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    At least you have a like from Miss Saudi Arabia.:roflol: Welcome back Margot. How about some of your alternative reality. But then again, in our New Orwellian Dictionary with its flexibility of terms, black can be white, and white can be black.





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    Weren't you just claiming that Chechny Muslims were peaceful and Gulf Arabs were terrorists?
     
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    You keep repeating nonsense, no matter how many times you are proven wrong. Is repetition part of the troll handbook? If Syria didn't have oil, then what were those thousands of tanker trucks doing when they were running back and forth between Raqqa and Turkey. If they were not delivering Syria's stolen oil, then why did Russia bomb them?

    You might be right though about Syrian not having oil now, since the US took over Syria's oil and gas rich areas east of the Euphrates under the pretense they are fighting terrorists. It's only temporary, they can't hold on to it. Let's just say the natives want their lands back.

    Now a question. Russia and Assad have been sending humanitarian aid to the towns that were freed, but the money for the restoration of places like the old city of Aleppo, Palmyra, etc., where is that coming from? Also who is bankrolling the Syrian army? Right now most of the FSA have united with the Syrian government to free ISIS and Al Nusra from the American occupied territory. Without them, Washington wouldn't have an excuse to remain in Syria.

    Could China be the one bankrolling the reconstruction, since Syria is very important for its commerce? Just wondering!
     
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    Thousand of tanker trucks was a very obvious lie, Jeannette.

    Look at Syria's GDP before the civil war and the unemployment rate and the rate of inflation.
     
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    The Chechnyan Muslims are moderates, but there are extremist influences coming from the Gulf and you know it Margot. They are the ones that caused the wars in Chechnya - with of course the help of the CIA agents. Kadyrov's in charge of the Caucasus in Southern Russia, and he made a vow with his men over a decade ago that they will fight terrorists wherever they are - and they have been. Chechnya and Dagestan are mountainous and terrorists do manage to infiltrated once in a while. They are also teaching a more moderate version of Islam in schools, so children won't be so susceptible to the terrorists.

    As for the Chechnyans, they are now joining the Russian army rather than having their own militia, and are being used as guards in some of the free zones in Syria. This has a two fold purpose, one is that they are culturally sensitive to the Sunnis, and the other is that it keeps the Iranians far from Israel.
     
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    Self-serving horsesh*t propaganda. You specialize in that.

    Russia and China have lined up with the Shia side in the Shia-Sunni struggle. The U.S. and Israel are lining up with the Sunnis. It's mostly about oil except for Russia who wants access to the world through the Middle East. Russia is trying to flip Turkey, but the Turks are Sunnis so that will be a tough nut for them.

    Your Russian general is an unsophisticated, paranoid fool. (Meet Curtis LeMay in the next life.)
     
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    Bingo.
     
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    RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA ALERT!
     
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    You know the old real estate line: "Location, location, location..."
     
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    No they aren't moderate.. Stalin tried to exterminate ALL of them.

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    Syria's only value is as a transit state and that has been tried and failed.. Too often they sabotaged the TAPLINE because of their internal political turmoil.
     

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