Chinese Media - Syrian War Is Deadly Battle Between Nato & Russia

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    I think the only person who took the Yinon map seriously was Wesley Clark. The war in Syria is all about Assad and his inability to govern. Its not some plot by the US or Iran or the Arab states.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, then who were the Russians bombing, Saudi Arabia?:roll:
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then why did we are we destroying the countries on the map - one by one? Seems very much like the plan to me.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And Saudi Arabia should take over, right Margot?
     
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    "We" didn't destroy the countries on the map.. The US has no magical powers to prevent civil war.
     
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    Syria has NOTHING that Saudi Arabia wants. The country is destroyed and impoverished... a third of their population is gone.. and Assad is still in power.

    Moon of Alabama is a Russian blog.. I was stunned at the viciousness of their anti-Semitism.
     
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    China should be told of how the Syrian war came about. Supposedly, even by Al Jazeera News, by school youths who graffitied anti Government remarks on a public wall.




    I would suppose that Syria was a very comfortable country under Syrian ruler until this occurred. It really is remarkable to see how 'little sparks' can trigger the 'true colors' to come out.


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    The article is important because it explains what Syria was like BEFORE the civil war.
     
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    Twirling in a circle crying "propaganda" is both fallacy and not an argument for anything other than your inability to respond to the message with anything coherent.

    Regardless of which direction the website might lean - that the Syria situation is a battle between US/Nato/Gulf countries and Syria/Iran/Russia is a statement of fact.

    Try responding to the message rather than demonizing the messenger for a change.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree that involvement of some of the parties relates to oil but your Sunni/Shia characterization does not well describe the various sides of this conflict. 50% of Assad's regular army are Sunni. These Sunni's are not fighting for Assad because this is a Sunni/Shia battle - if that were the case they would fight for the rebel opposition.

    While it is true that the opposition rebels are "Sunni" - the reason the 50% of Assad's regular army (who are Sunni) fight against the rebel opposition is because they are radical Islamist's and not because they are Sunni.

    Islamist's hate individual rights and freedoms/individual liberty. They want an extremist version of sharia theocracy to be the law of the land/political system. They want to force their religious beliefs on others through physical violence (law) and or holy Jihad.

    Al Qaeda and ISIS were the vast majority of the rebel opposition and the other groups were of the same ilk. All (with few exceptions - likened to finding a needle in a haystack) were fighting to turn Syria into a strict sharia theocracy as per the Saudi ideology.

    Not all Sunni's are "Islamist's" never mind Islamist extremists who follow the extreme Saudi ideology.

    The US/Israel/Nato/ Saudi Arabia (and Sunni Gulf nations) have aligned with the Islamist extremists (Al Qaeda and ISIS and those of the same ilk) while Russia, China and Iran support the Regime.

    This is how our own DIA characterized the struggle soon after it started in 2012.
     
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    So why is Assad buying oil from ISIS?

    http://www.businessinsider.com/revealed-the-oil-middleman-between-the-syrian-regime-and-isis-2015-3
     
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    He bought it at one time because like them he's a terrorist and they had cheap oil for sale. He isn't buying it from them now because they no longer control any oil. The great majority of small Syria's oil assets are controlled by the US and its Kurdish allies in the war on ISIS. My understanding is that the Kurdish faction the US favors is benefitting from this oil now.
    It was an attempt by Syrian army and Russian mercenaries to take these oil fields last month that cost 400 Russians their lives when the US destroyed them with artillery and air strikes.
     
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    How awful.....
     
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    The US side did not lose a man...what's so awful about that??
     
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    I suspect that Putin isn't happy with Assad. All this death and destruction and nothing has changed.

    Russia Says Syria Rejects New Constitution Diluting Assad ...

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ejects-new-constitution-diluting-assad-powers

    Syria won’t accept a Russian plan for a new constitution that would dilute the powers of President Bashar al-Assad, in a setback for Kremlin efforts to negotiate an end to the seven-year civil war.

    • Kremlin can’t impose solution in Syria, senior adviser says

    • Syria opposition says Assad defying Putin on political reform
     
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    That's good.. but nobody should lose their life over Assad.
     
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    Obama invited Russia into Syria and today we have a proxy war because America had a community organizers as President.
     
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    At least the Kremlin is trying to negotiate an end to the war - which is more than can be said for the US/Saud/Israel/Nato coalition who just wants to prolong this war.

    Second - the conflict in Syria was not a "civil war" - it was an armed insurgency/proxy war backed by various nation states and this has been explained to you numerous times.
     
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    The Chinese would know better about internal 'wars' starting from anti Government propaganda than the U.S. or other Liberal Countries.
     
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    So get the **** out then
     
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    Are you talking about Russia or the US or both?
     
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    Your little neocon buddies and their proxy army of terrorists that you've built and pretend to fight
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    No .. it is a civil war. Things were VERY bad in Syria for 5 years before the war and Assad promised reforms.. When he arrested and tortured the schoolboys protests popped up all over the country and Assad had them shot. 10,000 Sunni conscripts deserted the military.
     

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