Christian Bakers Who Lost their Business after Homosexual Attack Refuse to Pay $135K

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  1. VoiceofSanity

    VoiceofSanity New Member

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    Google "Overhauling Straight America". The first hit I always get is to a homosexual website. After you find the manifesto there, you may continue your serial denials ala Baghdad Bob.
     
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    Why is this relevant? The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
     
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    greatdanechick Well-Known Member

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    For someone apparently terrified of the gays, you sure spend a lot of time reading, replying and obsessing about us.
     
  4. VoiceofSanity

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    Ah, the straw argument tactic.

    Is it not wise to study the ways of ones aggressive adversaries?

    It was just a matter of time before the bigoted gaystapo trotted out the "opponents must be closeted" scripted tactic created by the same homosexual guys who created the born gay hoax, all published in The Homosexual Agenda.

    The New Black Panther party members all secretly are caucasians. Jews who hate Muslims secretly are Muslims themselves. Sunnis who hate Shiites secretly are Shiite themselves. Shiites who hate Sunnis secretly want to become Sunni's themselves. Democrats who hate Republicans secretly are Republicans themselves. Bernie Sanders supporters secretly hate socialists and are really open market capitalists. Occupy Democrat members secretly want to become big bankers and work for Goldman Sachs. Pakistanis who secretly hate Indians are secretly Indian themselves.

    Your obsessing over normal conservative heterosexuals is proof you clearly are repressing an inner hidden, dark secret desire to become a heterosexual conservative normal person. See how that all that works, bully?
     
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    No. You are the one with the far fetched claims. The burden of proof is on you.

    You Google it and you post a convincing link. It's not my responsibility to prove your claim to me.

    Before you call me lazy and other personal attacks. I don't believe that straight America is being overhauled. If you want to convince people of this, it is you're duty to be convincing.

    Truth be told I am going to Google it to prepare an argument against it. But I likely won't have to. If you believed what you were saying you'd post some links to it. You are actually afraid to post them. Either the source of your info is dubious or the info itself is dubious.

    That's the only reason to tell me to seek info to prove your claim.

    See, you are already prepared for the natural argument against it. You dismissed them before you even heard them.

    You are clearly being obstinate in your own opinion and intolerant and dismissive if the opinions of others. It's funny that you call everybody else a bigot.
     
  6. VoiceofSanity

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    Do you deny the existence of the manifesto "Overhauling Straight America, and that it is currently available on a homosexual website?
     
  7. Polydectes

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    A straw argument tactic? Perhaps if you brushed up on your logic a little bit you wouldn't be so unequivocally incapable of posting an argument.

    It isn't a "straw argument tactic." That isn't a thing. There is a logical fallacy called a straw man argument. One which you are guilty of that I outlined and explained very well (that you didn't respond to but instead cowered away from with your tail between your legs.)

    You can go read up on it.

    I will say the argument you responded to is indeed a fallacy. It's called an ad hominem. Where she attempts to discredit your argument by pointing out a personal detail about you.

    There is no need to discredit you by suggesting you are secretly homosexual. That's your issue to deal with. All anybody needs to discredit you is the most back understanding of logic.

    Yes. But it is not wise to invent imaginary ones.

    It is a common occurrence. The most vocal opponents to homosexuality really turn out to be homosexual themselves. It wouldn't be a thing if it hadn't happens multiple times. People that espouse the same views you do often hold them due to some personal insecurity.

    People that hate others anonymously based on preconceived notions often do so because of insecurities. Muslims that hate Jews do so because they think Judaism is an affront to their version of God. This is not only insecure but lack of faith. My version of God is the truth. No amount of other people worshipping differently will make that untrue. Thus I'm secure in my beliefs and have no need to hate anybody that doesn't share them.

    Where homosexuality plays into this is that the truth about it has come to light and it's visible for everybody to see. That is why you have to create a secret gay police to sell your version of reality. It has to be a conspiracy a motive that is hidden forvyour reality to be real to others. (I don't doubt it's real to you, to wit I don't fault you.)

    This is your insecurity that causes you to invent a vast cabal of gay Nazis working in secret. You see the world changing. You see Christianity changing and it frightens you. Perhaps you find people of your sex a little in the attractive side. It doesn't make you gay, just human. But you likely haven't become secure with that.



    Nobody is really obsessing over that. You are projecting.

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    No. I'm unaware of its existence.
     
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    Ok fine, here we go. This article was written in 1987 in the middle of the AIDS epidemic when gay men were seen as the enemy no matter they did. The article was written to move gay people into progress, to take charge of the movement they desperately needed, literally to survive. It was a time of little hope, and a blueprint for change and a future they could believe in is exactly what the community needed.

    Snip: "The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights. To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion. Ideally, we would have straights register differences in sexual preference the way they register different tastes for ice cream or sports games: she likes strawberry and I like vanilla; he follows baseball and I follow football. No big deal."

    http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm

    So indifference is that threatening to you? This manifesto you keep referring to had a goal to move people from violent, dangerous hateful positions to feeling neutral about homosexuality. That's hardly an attack on straights. The overhaul was creating a place where gays and lesbians could live their lives without fear of verbal or physical attack. Nothing more.

    In 2016 we've checked off many things from this to do list and it has in fact made life better for many gays and lesbians. Our families don't disown us anymore, we have access to healthcare and STI prevention. We are able to visit our loved ones in the hospital and inherit property when they die. We can bring our dates to prom, go out to dinner together, date online, ice skate hand in hand and hurt NO ONE. Thousands of gay and lesbian people sadly still struggle with all those things I just listed because of cruel people who are still out there. If you don't like us that's fine, can't you just be indifferent to us? That's all we ask, and that's all the authors of this paper were asking in 1987.
     
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    The new neo primitive hates gays as old Neanderthal man hated primitive ancestors and mashed their skulls with a bone, the next evolutionary step up is discarding the ancient past and accepting the next evolutionary step up !
     
  10. IranianStudent1

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    So what?
    Islam says
    Greater scholars must consider whether dealing with a bad govt.is better or not dealing with thhem.

    Did The scholars make an indiscrimination>
     
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    I see you like to reply without quoting who you are replying to in the vain hope your comment will be missed.

    nothing in your comment from the thread "The Born Gay Hoax Exposed, and by the Homosexual Hoax Creators No Less!" has any links to the source, if you had linked it could have been seen to be an almost direct copy and paste from http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=927_1345510160 and DavidIcke.com which shows you are incapable of forming an intelligent idea of your own.

    You also choose to ignore current research such as the paper I linked to, whether the origins of the born gay idea were a propaganda tool or not is irrelevant to what current research is starting to show us, your rant is 16 years out of date and like pretty much everything you post irrelevant.
     
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    The sexual orientation is not hated, the publicizing is.
    One should not publicize his sexual orientation, be it transexual or homosexual.

    It was such that I, up to my college year, didn't know a child is born after their parent intercoursed!!
     
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    What does this even mean? How does one "publicize" their sexual orientation?

    Well that's just sad. What, did your parents just tell you the stork dropped you off until you were 18 years old?
     
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    No one would ever be punished if he actually commits sodomy in presence of 4 people of a high degree of purity.
    Probably they thought I would know like most kids automatically
     
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    Nobody does.

    Yes, sexual education is often over looked.
     
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    So what's the problem?
    One can do whatever they like in the privacy of their homes.
     
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    You can't possibly be serious??

    Your telling me you were unaware how humans reproduced until you were in College???

    Lack of such knowledge is considered to be a BAD THING.

    AA
     
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    That's a bit of a double standard. I shouldn't have to jump through hoops to hide myself.
     
  19. VoiceofSanity

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    Same goes for Christians and those who refuse to submit to Homo-sharia who are under attack by the Gay Mafia
     
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    Except of course you haven't provided a single thing that supports your opinion.
     
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    If the 4 people want to watch and the gay guys are into that, more power to them. If someone isn't consenting to that then it would be indecent exposure and probably a few other crimes.

    That's the whole problem right there. Parents assume their kids know, schools assume the parents tell the kids and in fact millions of kids are getting zero education. That is why I believe every school, at least public schools, should provide full comprehensive sex ed.
     
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    I am not kidding but not that bad. It's a bonus people learn about things gradually, so they might not freak out.
    I were just reading a poem book by Rumi and just ask my father is it true?People reproduce by intercourse??
     
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    Why?
    No one pisses in public.
    No one does sex in public.
    Why would one declare s/he is gay?
     
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    Well now that's odd, you don't say that of the homosexualist lobbyists here when they post opinions. I wonder why that is....
     
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    Nobody requires that of Christians.
     
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