Christian bakery wins 'gay cake' ruling from UK supreme court

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  1. yasureoktoo

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    Homosexuality is not genetic.
    There may be isolated cases, but it is choice for the most part
     
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    Your full of it. NOTHING there supports your assertion and heres the part that directly contradicts your assertions.

    In the mid-20th century American psychiatry was greatly influenced at the time by these psychoanalytic perspectives. Consequently, in 1952, when APA published the first edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM-I) [7], it listed all the conditions psychiatrists then considered to be a mental disorder. DSM-I classified “homosexuality” as a “sociopathic personality disturbance.” In DSM-II, published in 1968 [8], homosexuality was reclassified as a “sexual deviation.”

    And here is why it was taken out'

    "However, the most significant catalyst for diagnostic change was gay activism."
     
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    Homosexuals are 7 times more likely to have been molested as a child.
     
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    While I argue that we cannot be certain that it is genetic per se, it is indeed an inherant trait, not subject to choice.

    Now it may be that you are having difficulty separating out the difference between the attraction that is homosexuality the orientation, compared to the actions that are homosexual in nature. The later is indeed a choice as it is a choice to engage in heterosexual activity. All sexual activity is a choice. All sexual attraction is an inherent trait.
     
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    Amazing how you failed to provide a reference to that last bit, and how slim you made the quote to remove any context.
     
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    Source?
     
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    Which negates nothing I have said... Homosexuals of course contested the baseless classification as fraudulent - because it was. They changed it quickly because they were called out on their metrics, which didn’t exist.

    Feel free to post a medical source that identified homosexuality with the characteristics of a mental illness though. Or one of your famous Latin quotes. Whichever. Both hold about the same amount of weight.
     
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    Although here is the big question, thinking on this claim. Even if it is a choice, what difference does it make as far as legality goes?
     
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    Such quaint, 20th century views.

    The separation of sexuality from procreation entails its freedom from heterosexuality and its emergence as an individual attribute, something individuals can develop, enjoy, change or project as part of their changing definition of the self. Sexuality becomes plastic because the self itself has broken the bounds of traditional institutional expectations and it is now free to constitute and reconstitute itself in a series of narratives answering to nothing else but the growing freedom of individuals to develop their potential.
    http://www.colorado.edu/Sociology/gimenez/work/GIDDENS.TXT
     
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    CD8ed provided the link and I copy and pasted it
     
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    DIRECTLY refutes it. It wasn't religion and politics, it was the science of psychiatry at the time. .
     
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    Zero evidence. It was a “study” based on questionnaires. The study was flawed on a “variety of methodological grounds, including the fact that its conclusions were based in part on psychoanalysts answering questionnaires about their patients”.

    It did not fit the medical classification of mental illness - even at the time.

    You sticking your ears in your fingers and repeating it doesn’t make it true.
     
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    This is your source material.
    Seems to represent your cognitive ability
     
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    How do you figure that ? It is no more a choice than choosing to like oranges over mango's. You don't - you either like mango's or you do not.

    Did you choose to be attracted to the one who you are with ? No .. you just were.

    When you look out into the world do you choose who you are sexually attracted to and who you are not ? NOPE. Why ? because it is not a choice.
     
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    DUH! I dive into them to vent my anger for being forced to imagine the perversity, in other words reminded of it?? If there were a lobotomy-type operation that could erase it from my brain I'd effing opt for it. When I first heard about AS it took me a long time to bring myself to believe that anyone would do such a disgusting thing. You might 'celebrate' homosexuality but I don't!
     
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    See mine to Maquiscat above. I never initiate the subject threads, only respond to those who do initiate them in their agenda to make the disgusting practice acceptable, so I can perfectly understand why those like yourself get annoyed at me; you'd much rather I just keep quiet, because it irritates you that I'm able to articulate it for the perversity that it undoubtedly is? Of course it's 'more disgusting and gross', not only because it's unnatural, but how can anything to do with making personal contact with faeces not be. Don't you feel revolted when you step in dog faeces? At least that's only on the bottom of your shoe, and easily cleaned off under a running tap - if you see the difference??
     
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    Can you control your brain to not think about something? Of course you can't, and neither can I.
     
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    Well actually I can, if subjects disturb or disgust me I don't go seeking them out. I don't continue to responds to people on the internet who wish to talk about things that Disturbed me.

    You're here for a reason and if it is too tell me how bothered you are about something I must ask who are you trying to convince
     
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    I know, I know - I should come out of the closet? If I had a pound for every time I've read that trite suggestion as a last-resort riposte, I'd be a rich man. :roflol:
     
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    Well it's kind of strange that you're in here talking about a subject that disgusts you it's almost like you enjoy talking about it and you are disgusted with yourself for that.

    I didn't insinuate that you are gay. It's odd that you would jump to that conclusion.
     
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    I've explained why I do. I resent being reminded of it?

    "Perhaps this is on your mind a lot because you have some deep-seated unresolved issues."

    The 'deep-seated unresolved issue' which could be resolved if only I'd come out? I don't mind being criticized for my opinions, Polydectes, but please don't imply that I'm a fool?
     
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    Yet you brought it up nobody else did. All you have to do is stop reminding yourself of it.



    if you insist. But it's you insisting not me.

    I'm sorry that you took it that way. I'm sorry that you brought something up and reminded your self of something you resent being reminded of. I didn't imply that you were a fool. I stated directly that you likely have some deep-seated issues.

    It's more of the Judgment of the mentality of a person who resents himself reminding himself of things he reminds himself of.

    Your behavior is peculiar.

    And no I'm not implying that you're gay. If I thought you were I would be talking to you a lot differently.
     
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    And I'm sorry you're a bigot! I've always thought you were better than that.
     
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    Who are you speaking too?
     
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    I was replying to the previous post, so that was to you.
     

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