Christian bakery wins 'gay cake' ruling from UK supreme court

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I don't know which post.

    If you think less of me because you resent yourself talking about anal sex, I'm okay with that. Just another SJW.

    You brought up anal sex. You reminded yourself of it. You resent yourself.

    Sorry you have that problem. You can not read this thread if you can't help yourself. You can place me on ignore if the truth is too much for you.
     
  2. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd rather that you just respect my sentiments on the subject, as you have hitherto.
     
  3. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    You want to talk about anal sex you brought it up. You always bring it up and then cry about it. If you don't want to talk about it shut up about it.

    The sentiments you express repeatedly is that you love talking about it. I responded to your statements. In the future don't make those statements. If you do I'm going to respond.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, you'd like it if I did, wouldn't you - it's what 'bigotry' means - the intemperate suppression of alternate viewpoints.

    We're obviously done here.
     
  5. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    The only view point you expressed is that you resent being reminded of things you remind yourself of. My advice was to stop reminding yourself of it.

    Your pretty fragile and delicate if that is suppression. Guess you are an sjw snowflake

    Some how I doubt that you are done here
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Alright I'll put it another way, since you won't 'shut up about it' - I'm done with you.
     
  7. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    No your not. You keep on yammering.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Stop trolling me please or I'll make an official complaint.
     
  9. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Who are you talking to?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You send 8 consecutive posts in quick succession and you ask who I'm talking to? Who else would I be talking to, if not you ffs?? :roll:
     
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    Again, less than half of homosexual people engage in anal sex and those that do there is often a considerable amount of preparation beforehand so “feces” isn’t really part of it.

    I am not annoyed by your opinion — even though it is wrong as homosexuality and homosexual behavior is seen in nature (natural) and is practiced by heterosexual couples both now and throught history (acceptable) — what does annoy me are the people like yourself who feel your opinion gives you the right to inhibit these people’s rights and antagonize their lives. These threads that you “don’t create only express your opinion are almost always generated by one of four anti-gay posters so save the lies that you are just trying to quell the agenda of people’s exisrance.

    That you attempt to lower loving partners as a simple sex act — and a single one at that — makes me sad for any spouse or partner you may have as you have surely demeaned them into a sex object.
     
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    Now your making my point. Notice the complete absence of politics and religion in YOUR explanation as to why homosexuality was included in the manual. You made up some BS about why homosexuality was put into DSMII, I proved you wrong and you just cant accept it.
     
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    Just an expired link.
     
  14. Maquiscat

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    I can see where seeing certain topics would involuntary bring thoughts of anal sex to mind, and, given your particular sensibilities, it upseting you. Perfectly legitimate. However, the moment that you enter into the thread, it is no longer anyone else putting this burden on you but you yourself doing it. Instead of a avoiding the topic and letting the issue fade from thought, you instead purposefully subject yourself to more exposure. You remind yourself of the topic more than anyone else does, and you do so on purpose. Again, this sounds extremely masochistic, as if you enjoy getting this worked up over the topic.

    As for "celebrating" remember that anal sex is practice just as much, if not more, among heterosexuals as among homosexuals.
     
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    Again, answer truthfully - in your completely subjective opinion - do you believe homosexuality would have been classified as a mental illness (even though it did not meet the criteria of such) without the influence of religious belief? Homosexuality was originally classified as a psychological disease because of religious dogma and was generally accepted before the invention of modern religion.

    I don’t know how I could be making your point as I don’t even think you have one half the time.
     
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    Your making my point because everything you've linked to has pointed to the inclusion of homosexuality in DSM1, NOT DSMII for the first time as you claimed, AND shown that it was included because of the views of those academics in the field of psychology at the time. EVEN preceding the publication of DSMI it was the science of psychology in the 1800s that considered it a psychological disorder. NOT religion and politics as you claimed. Nothing you've presented even makes the suggestion. In fact it was precisely the opposite. Religion and its effect on politics viewed homosexuality as a moral failing, a sin engaged in by choice. That justified criminalizing the act. Even some homosexuals advocated its inclusion in the DSM because if its a mental disorder its not a moral failing or something to be criminalized.
     
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    Do you know what the DSM was in those days? Do you know what it was written for?

    You people hold this up like it's some Holy Grail. I must behavioral specialists did not even know the DSM existed in the 50s when it was first introduced.
     
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    Be sure to explain to him how the DSM III was the first edition created in 1980 to use objective criteria. And it was the first edition to gain wide appeal among behavioral specialists.

    These people act like the DSM I &II Where the gold standard. And they don't know the first damn thing about the behavioral sciences.
     
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    Further on this history it's really interesting because you can see the evolution of Behavioral Sciences over the past 60 years. Back when the first Diagnostics manual was written they didn't refer to anything as a mental disorder or illness they refer to it as a reaction. And of course they were under the assumption that all mental illnesses are considered reactions to environmental stimuli. We know without a doubt this isn't the case. That was one of the things that was adjusted between the first and second. And it was also and the DSM 2 not 3 that homosexuality itself was dropped as a mental illness. That was in 1974 the DSM 3 was released in 1980.
     
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    so it was added in the first place based on views and not objective evidence. Maybe that's why it was easily removed through political activism. There just was no science to support it.

    it doesn't matter it was still based on beliefs. The DSM 3 was the first Diagnostics and statistics manual to use objective criteria. Not just the opinions of whoever wrote it. And it's amazing that when they applied this empiricism the DSM went from being some obscure pamphlet with instructions on how to treat reactions to gaining worldwide acclaim as the gold standard for Behavioral Sciences.

    The only people that would have even known that the DSM existed back in the 50s and 60s would have been people in the behavioral sciences. It was not the gold standard until the third installment. In the beginning it was just a manual on how to treat people in Sanitariums

    It didn't even classify things as mental disorders or mental illnesses it referred to them as reactions. Because so little was known at the time and nobody believed that there was someone born with some Malady that would cause them to be mentally ill.

    You do not know the first thing about this.
     
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    I was lucky enough to find the true love of my life, and would wish the same for everyone irrespective of their gender or the gender of the chosen one. So you're obviously barking up the wrong tree here. As to the perversion - and however you try and cloak it in respectability it is a perversion - I have nothing further to add.
     
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    Well I can't speak for anyone else can I!! Nor would I if I could - it would be presumptuous in the extreme. Like everyone else, I post my own opinions and viewpoint whether they be controversial or not, which is what we're all here for?
     
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    The only problem with your statement is that it is an opinion value. So the correct statement is that you see it as a perversion.
     
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    What TF do you mean by 'opinion value'?
     
  25. Maquiscat

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    It's not your viewpoints and opinions that we're talking about in our comments, but rather how you complain how others remind you of something you find disgusting, yet you continue to subject yourself to such subject matter. Now were you to admit that you get a guilty pleasure out of such poking at the wound, we'd probably let that slide. We've all done it at least once or twice.
     

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