Christian bakery wins 'gay cake' ruling from UK supreme court

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Well if it's all about butt sex for you just do it with a woman. Some women that even like it.

    If the only reason you would pair bond with another person is for sex I think you're missing a vital component of the human equation.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    well there's probably a reason why you don't participate in anal sex. I don't find rock climbing to be particularly pleasurable. What does it mean that it's not for people who are not me.

    So enjoying anal sex even if you do it strictly with women means you're gay?

    I don't think that word means what you think it means.
     
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    Actually it was carried over from DSM-I to DSM-II. Included in DSM-I based upon a study, "Homosexuality: A Psychoanalytical Study of Male Homosexuals" by Irving Bieber
     
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    Interesting, I did not know that. Thanks.

    It seems the study was based on questionnaires and still did not make homosexuality fit the criteria of a mental illness, even at the time of classification as such. It was “criticized on a variety of methodological grounds, including the fact that its conclusions were based in part on psychoanalysts answering questionnaires about their patients”.

    His work is the cornerstone of the failed practice of conversion therapy.
     
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    Pleasure seeking is pleasure seeking whether you're getting from it from adrenaline, an orgasm or any number of other activities people do for pleasure. The principle remains the same. What one person enjoys another might not, and where one person is willing to do an activity they don't enjoy, another is not. It happens in all aspects of life

    I made very explicit reference to strap on and other sex aids earlier for women to use. And yes both my wives enjoy the act in both aspects. And such women are not really all that uncommon. It's estimated around a third of all women have at least tried anal sex.
     
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    Or maybe you just like wiping your dick in sh-t.
    Bet your ma couldn't keep you away from those dog piles.
     
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    I don't hate them ffs - I don't hate hate anyone except paedophiles and charlatans, but I strongly disapprove of what they do, not least because it makes me feel physically sick every time the subject is raised and it annoys me, so why shouldn't I express it? I will not be brainwashed nor shamed into believing it's an acceptable practice. As for your last questions - mind your own effing business. I'm done here.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Donor

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    Stop reminding me of it.
     
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    You don't want to be reminded of it yet you keep diving into the threads that remind you of it. Mayhaps thou art a bit of a masochist.
     
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    So you bring up something that disgusts you and then ask what is the point of being gay besides the sexual aspect — then you ignore the response. Fine.

    If it causes you such mental anguish maybe you avoid the topic, seeing as how you brought it up maybe you are struggling with some inner dialogue. Gay does not equal anal sex. You are ignorant if you believe so.

    To the point on my last question which you have demanded I “mind my own effing business” — you put it correct, I am free to express my feelings and questions so I will continue as I see fit. If a simple question triggered you so intensely maybe you should figure out why and reflect upon that.

    A homosexual relationship is no more disgusting or gross than that between that of you and your partner.
     
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    I will have to differ here. You statement is no more or less true than his own, with regards to how disgusting or gross it is. Both are subjective values, which is the point I am trying to convey to him. And it feeds right into my other point, then when one is not disgusted, one might be willing to do, even if one doesn't enjoy or desire.
     
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    You don't have to read this thread. Why don't you just stay out of it if you don't want to be reminded?

    It's starting to look as though you protest too much.
     
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    Meaning it WAS NOT included because of "political pressure and religious influence"
     
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    I meant on the surface - all relationships have elements that some would find gross or unacceptable to someone somewhere. It’s all entirely subjective on a ton of variables. Physically and emotionally.
    I see your point though.
     
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    Homosexuality is not genetic.
    There may be isolated cases, but it is choice for the most part
     
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    Your full of it. NOTHING there supports your assertion and heres the part that directly contradicts your assertions.

    In the mid-20th century American psychiatry was greatly influenced at the time by these psychoanalytic perspectives. Consequently, in 1952, when APA published the first edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM-I) [7], it listed all the conditions psychiatrists then considered to be a mental disorder. DSM-I classified “homosexuality” as a “sociopathic personality disturbance.” In DSM-II, published in 1968 [8], homosexuality was reclassified as a “sexual deviation.”

    And here is why it was taken out'

    "However, the most significant catalyst for diagnostic change was gay activism."
     
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    Homosexuals are 7 times more likely to have been molested as a child.
     
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    While I argue that we cannot be certain that it is genetic per se, it is indeed an inherant trait, not subject to choice.

    Now it may be that you are having difficulty separating out the difference between the attraction that is homosexuality the orientation, compared to the actions that are homosexual in nature. The later is indeed a choice as it is a choice to engage in heterosexual activity. All sexual activity is a choice. All sexual attraction is an inherent trait.
     
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    Amazing how you failed to provide a reference to that last bit, and how slim you made the quote to remove any context.
     

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