Christianity is a lie, since Adam wouldn't need/have a bellly button.

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  1. FreedomSeeker

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    Adam, they claim, was created from dust, so obviously he wouldn't need a belly button (which is for the feeding tube in the womb). But pictures of him show him with a belly button.

    Eve was, the fairy tale claims, created from Adam's rib, so she also doesn't need a belly button either, but is usually always drawn with one.

    Why wouldn't the Bible explain this?

    It must be tough to wake up each morning and have to make up little lies to explain the gaping holes in logic in one's belief system (I know, I used to be one of those people,) that "god" doesn't fill in for you because he doesn't really exist.

    Christians, right now would be a good time to admit it's just a fairy tale and move on to a reality-based overall belief system.
     
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    Really?
     
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    Can't explain it, can ya.
    Fairy tales are like that....can't explain them fully, because they simply are not real. That's why I moved on from fairy tales as a child.
    Apparently I demand TRUTH in my life more than you do (apparently).
    So why DID Adam/Eve have belly buttons?
    And if we were "created in God's image", why does god need a penis?
    Instead of having your head explode trying to justify an illogical fairy tale, it might be time to explore other more reality-based belief systems.
     
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    What? Any idiot could explain this. Adam wasn't posing for a painting. Painters painted him long after he supposedly existed. The painters didn't bother to think about the belly button issue, or felt that aesthetics trumped it. Simple.
     
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    Are you bored, freedomseeker?
     
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    Prof_Sarcastic, so Michalegelo got it wrong in the Sisteen Chapel, eh? You're saying Adam had NO belly button, correct?
    Also, so god, if we are created in his image and we have penises, has a penis....WTF!? Why?
     
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    This is hardly the best argument to disprove Christianity, it reminds me of the creationists claiming that because someone drew a picture of a monkey evolving into a human and say that it is evolutionists propaganda or that they can't explain it anyway or something stupid like that.

    Now I don't believe in God but this is still a stupid argument.
     
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    So you are of the "Adam had no belly-button" crowd, are you?

    Yes, I do realize they were painters who never saw Adam, of course, but still....
     
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    Did Adam have a belly button?
    Does god have a penis?
     
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    This priest on TV, at the 0:51 mark, can't answer it either: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FcUzVKmLlk&NR=1&feature=endscreen
    I love how they are laughing at him.

    Stop defending fairy tales.

    I have accomplished one thing, however: whenever you look at a painting of Adam/Eve you'll pause, just for a second, and realize something is probably wrong, and that maybe, just maybe, it's all a fairy tale for adults.
     
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    The Bible does not explain it because those drawings are merely the renderings of an artist who used his imagination to conjure the vision of Adam and Eve rather than deal with the facts mentioned in the Bible. The same thing that happens with people who envision God as being a FSM or an Invisible Pink Panda... it is really simple to understand.
     
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    It's a moot point.
     
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    ya it’s a myth but people not thinking there drawing through doesn’t prove anything either
     
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    "Lack of a belly-button on Adam and Eve would be one of the biggest tourist attractions in the pre-Flood world, as the grandchildren and the great-grandchildren would come up and say, “Why don't you have a belly-button?” And they could recount again and again, to generation after generation, how God had created them special by completed supernatural acts, and yet had designed them to multiply and fill the Earth in natural ways that are equally a part of God's continuing care for what He created."

    ....that didn't happen though, now did it? Because it's a fairy tale.

    From http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/bellybutton.html
     
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    this is the most asinine idea ever for you to read somewhere.

    i realize you never thought this up for you don't think.

    And what if Adam had no belly button, and what if his hairline was receding and what of his earlobes and nostrils, did the artists get this right as well...

    you are no longer a viable poster...

    i will no longer comment on your stuff and ask you to not comment on mine.
     
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    If only JESUS knew the answer, then he, if he was real, and if he cared about us, could answer this question in a heart-beat. But he won't, now will he. If *I* knew the answer for sure, then I'd tell you guys, because I'm more moral than Jesus and I do exist.
     
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    So you clearly believe that Adam/Eve did NOT have belly buttons, correct? And that Michelagelo got it all wrong, even though I'm sure a high-ranking religious official had to approve his paintings in the Sisteen Chapel?
     
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    I don't believe either of them exist(ed) so I doubt I would be the best person to ask. I was just pointing out that your argument is stupid and would not be convincing to anyone to even challenge their beliefs.
     
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    Did he have a belly button? Why would they have painted him that way?
     
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    You are correct that ONE argument probably never will, but there will come some point where the overall evidence (of which this question is just 0.0001%, say) becomes so overwhelming that people leave the cult just like I did. For example: where did Noah get the kangaroos from, and how did they return to Australia as well? Where did Noah get the penguins from, and how did they return to the antartic - from the Middle East, as well?
     
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    Wow, this is incredibly dumb. How about "God created them that way so that they would look like other humans"? I'm aware that population genetics essentially destroys the concept of Adam and Eve, but this is still a really dumb post.
     
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    I agree.
    And people who read this might never look at a painting of Adam/Eve the same way again.
     
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    Many many points of view (population genetics being one, yes) destroy the fairy tales in the bible.
     
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    the whole the universe is only 6000 years old cause of the biblical accounting....there cannot be dinosaurs cause they are not mentioned in the Holy Bible...

    all are just so infantile in discussing....now this belly button thing...
    i mean how far down the dullard scale do you want to go.

    lets split hairs on how many angels can fit on the point of a pin...
     
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    Did I say one way or the other ???? No! I did not commit to making a declaration other than that the artist used his imagination... in the same manner that you are using yours to attempt to rewrite in your own words what I have stated. You malign the truth.
     

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