Christianity simple explained

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    John 1:3
    Through him all things were created.
     
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    Still doesn't say that hell was one of them.
     
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    "All things" is all things.

    And God sends people to hell per Mathew 25:41.
     
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    You mean the fire? So, you call the fire which will destroy those who oppose Jesus, hell?
     
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    But who or which religion gets to decide what is in fact "good" or "evil".

    But who said..."the U.S. is endowed by our Creator???
    Do you have a link that quotes the creator giving any endowment what-so-ever to the U.S. in particular??
     
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    The Declaration of Independence which is our founding document. We are endowed by our creator with unalienable rights meaning man nor government gives us our rights. They come from God our Creator. The U.S. Constitution is to protect our rights given by our Creator God. One link for the Constitution being unique and that He established the Constitution is found in the Doctrine and Covenants book of Scripture Section 101:77, "According to the laws and constitution of the people, which I have suffered to be established, and should be maintained for the rights and protection of all flesh, according to just and holy principles;" Thus sayeth the Lord! Without the Declaration of Independence written as is, Marxist and Fascist Government personal could take over and destroy our rights. And, they are trying to as all Democrat Atheists know they are. Right!
     
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    That's silly. According to the fairy tale, when Adam & Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, they knew everything that the God character knows about that issue. So, if that is true, even you are as smart as God so there's nothing he can teach you about how to live your life. You do believe in the fairy tale, don't you?
     
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    So humans killed Jesus because they resented being taught how to live?
     
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    The whole idea of "we have rights" is a human creation.
    Where in the Bible does it speak of God giving humans "rights"?
    And where does it say..."the U.S. is endowed by our Creator"?

    You seem to be quoting another "religious" book called..."the Doctrine and Covenants book of Scripture"....
    which is also a human creation...as is the Bible.
     
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    No, the Declaration of Independence specifically states we citizens have unalienable rights. Meaning, our rights don't come from man nor government. And, you can name your own Creator if you would like. If it's nature, then we are free to believe and exercise our beliefs, speak our own thoughts and protect these rights with the weapons of our choice.

    I never said that the "U.S." is endowed by our Creator. The people who are citizens are.

    Does the Bible speak of human rights? Yes. 1Cor 6:12, Everything is permissible for me but not everything is beneficial. I will not be mastered by anything.
    John 8:36 says the Son (Christ) will set us free.
    Galatians 5:1, It is for freedom that Christ has set us free.

    Since the Declaration of Independence is our founding document as a nation, and it references our rights come from God our Creator, then it's appropriate to use scriptures that teach about freedom and free will. I know that is not what atheists want to here. But, it is the truth that we get our rights not from man or government. But by our Creator. If you and others can't handle it, move to China or Russia.
     
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    "unalienable": incapable of being alienated, surrendered, or transferred...
    So where does it say they were endowed by God?
    Sure you did...see below...
    It does not say that "rights" come from our creator...it just says..."unalienable" rights.
     
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    "The unalienable rights that are mentioned in the Declaration of Independence could just as well have been inalienable, which means the same thing. Inalienable or unalienable refers to that which cannot be given away or taken away."

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

    Self-evident, hmmm...Yet, you are unable to understand the phrase to it's minimal core. It's why, I guess, liberals yield to Marxism and Fascism so easily. I'll try to help explain this simple and self-evident declaration. All men (women too) are created equal (not equity but with equal opportunity) and endowed (given a gift) by their Creator (God) with certain (gifts known as rights that cannot be given by man/government or taken away by man/government - unalienable) rights, including 3 specific rights (but not only 3) life, liberty (freedom) and the pursuit of Happiness (the right to own property). So, to paraphrase, "All citizens of the U.S. are created with equal opportunity because of gifts of life, liberty and to pursue happiness that are not given or taken by man or Government but given by God our Creator, even creator of the universe.
     
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    Hell is not a creation but a state of being that is without God, family and all those things of good. Such as life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Hell is therefore a choice of state to be in created by the individual. We, after all, are gods in embryo... Psalms 86:2.
     
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    A misused statement. In this case, he was using the Bible to prove Apostles existed. That isn't using the Bible to prove the Bible. Besides, in the catacombs of the Vatican lies the bones of Apostles. As well as other proofs. Heck, Israel and Egypt also prove the Bible true since they are both mentioned in the Bible and we can go to those specific countries. Archeology is constantly unearthing new evidence of Biblical evidence.
     
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    Using your logic the Wizard of Oz is real because Kansas is real.
     
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    You are using wikipedia for your proof? You do know that wikipedia is a compilation of people putting information into the website and can be changed quite easily. So, atheists put information on Genome evolution. So, you use your own slanted evolutionary words as proof? That is circular reasoning...
     
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    Ahhh.... I was using your logic, sir... Thus, by your statement, you now understand your logic to be circular. As I said, it's easy to use by incorrect most of the time to use it. It's lazy debating.
     
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    Wikipedia articles have footnoted sources. There were 51 Scientific journals and publications listed as references for the article in question. Did you look at any of them?

    The Bible is claimed to be real because it is inspired by God and God is real because the Bible says so. That is circular logic. The Bible's creation story is mythology. It is not just the science of evolution that demonstrates this. It is demonstrated to be a bogus story radiometric dating, astrophysics, geology, etc.
     
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    You said "Israel and Egypt also prove the Bible true" -- exactly the same logic as me saying Kansas proves the Wizard of Oz is true. BTW - this is NOT circular logic which is starting with your end point. What is your evidence that the Bible's story of creation is true?
     
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    Sources from atheists. Good going. Circular logic. Evolution has never been proven to be true that man came from a lower level life. There are no links to this sort of evolution.
     
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    Because... The same logic you use.
     
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    Which of the 51 listed scientific references do you claim are published or written by atheists? These are scientific publications that are peer reviewed.

    Were is your proof that man was created by an invisible magic being who lives in the sky.
     
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    Our Government is acting for God - or so they say.

    ...the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Romans 13:1. So Joe Biden is appointed by God. In fact Joe Stalin was appointed by God.
     

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