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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I disagree, but we will just have to agree to disagree
     
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    I've learned a lot from this thread.
    The main thing I learned is that I am a computer dumb ass.:confused:
     
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    Actually, that does not matter because it is true.

    Almost every modern OS, from MS-DOS to Chrome and Linux are all based on UNIX.

    CP/M was created because the main operating system for most of Digital Equipment's computers was UNIX, and they got tired of seeing money leaving their company and going into the pocket of AT&T for every computer they sold. So they made CP/M, a very close "look and feel" operating system that they believed was different enough to avoid a lawsuit.

    IBM originally wanted CP/M as the OS for their new 5150, they had also decided that UNIX was to expensive and AT&T would not negotiate usage rights that would have been acceptable. But when DR basically refused to meet with them and Bill Gates showes up with a very close copy of CP/M they called MS-DOS (which was really just a repackaged copy of an older CP/M clone, Q-DOS). And once again, with enough of a change they hoped to avoid a lawsuit from DR and CP/M. Just as DR had hoped years earlier themselves.

    And it was only decades later that the AT&T stranglehold over UNIX and many other clones of that OS (including Microsoft's own Xenix) that we finally got the modern Linux scene, with the hundreds of variants we use today. And a lot of this is because of a great many lawsuits over the decades, that have determined that "look and feel" is not really copyrightable. You can make an OS that was 100% the same as UNIX, from commands and syntax to how it operated. So long as you write it all yourself and do not use copywritten code you are completely safe. Hence the "Linux Explosion" of the last 20 years.

    But all of them, CP/M, MS-DOS, Linux, Xenix, Chrome, Red Hat, they are all just descendants of UNIX.
     
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    just like religion, many are based on the OS's before them, that I will agree on
     
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    It's low cost is in trade for your privacy. Google is evil.
     
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    CA is leading the pack in privacy laws, corps not gonna like it

    we will have to see how that goes, if they hit the corps in the $$$, things may change
     
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    We'll see. People voluntarily sign away their right to privacy when they blindly agree to the EULA or TOS.
     
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    yes, I am one of those, I do not use Facebook, but I do use many services that give up privacy to the corps for convince, as do many

    I think our generation will be the last to enjoy the privacy we do, at some point even anonymous posts like here on political forum will probably be a thing of the past
     
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    Me too.:evil:
     
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    I had one of the first ones. Don't know where it is now but I work on a PC so use Sandboxie to sandbox the browser which when closed erases everything and I have used it for years now and never had a malware issue again.
     
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    Heck, people give up their right to privacy when they hang their clothes on a clothes line.
    Have you ever been to a nudist colony?:shocked:
     
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    They can have my data but it will just bore them to death.
     
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    Sounds like you got a dysfunctional Chromebook.

    You shouldn't have gotten any malware on your Chromebook.

    Chromebooks are :rock_slayer:
     
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    Maybe it wasn't malware. Ants get into my Chromebook sometimes.
    Whatever it was is now fixed.
     
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    Just saying I approve of Chrome book and today it's my device of choice.

    I own two Chromebooks along with two PC's and two laptops and in six years haven't been infected with a virus or malware or hacked by any Russians or Ukrainians on my Chromebooks.

    The only problem with Chromebooks it's Google and they keep spying and collecting data on you and keep selling the information on you to anyone for a price.

    Did run into one problem on one of the Chromebooks a few weeks ago. all of my downloaded files have seem to have "wandered off somewhere."
     
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    to add to that : and when Privacy goes, Bully Presidents like Trump with a fragile ego will actually use the bully pullet to attack the people

    https://www.thecut.com/2016/12/trum...old-girl-on-twitter-led-to-death-threats.html
     
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    yep, Trump and his fan boys made google their political target... sad!
     
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    Thank you for proving my point
     
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    did you have a point
     
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    OD/Max had an ad for chromebooks from $139 to $369 Sunday. I don't know much so I'll ask you:

    What's the odds it will work good with the Verizon Jetpack super wifi on the road?

    Just got a Jackery 240 and can easily keep stuff charged up now.
     
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    Yes, that you can't even enter a thread that has nothing to do with politics, without bringing up how much you can't stand Trump. I made that point already. You replied to it.

    Sad life you live bro
     
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    stop derailing the tread, Trump is the one attacking googe, of course it's gonna come up eventually in a thread about google

    sad little President you defend bro ;)

    the point I was making is that privacy is important and this President shows why, he would attack citizens because of his fragile ego if he could when they spoke out about our government
     
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    From down here you shine brightly.
     
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    Actually, what came before UNIX is barely even recognizable as an OS today.

    Back then you simply had "the system". It was all Mainframe computing, and the closest you had was various top ends that let the SysOps maintain things like batch ques and resource timesharing. Only the most basic file handling capabilities were there at all, generally little more than "RUN", "DELETE" and "SAVE".

    System/360, PDP, all of these were little more than a slightly smart kernel laid on top of the actual computer itself. In fact, quite often companies (General Electric, General Motors, Morrison-Knudsen) largely wrote their own "Operating System", and they were internal things not shared with other companies.

    The PDP series of computers by Digital Equipment was one of the first, but even then each was largely incompatible with previous versions. Hence, the desire by AT&T to create the first all-encompassing multi-platform universal Operating System, that could encompass all of the PDP systems and more.

    In fact, the name "UNIX" really does not mean anything. It is a pun on an earlier attempt by MIT to create a large multi-user timesharing OS known as "Multics". A great deal of the Multics concept and code was lifted directly, but then "downsized" to work more in a single user system. Hence, the "Uni" in "Unix".

    The multi-user capability was then grafted back in once the OS became a success.

    To understand the "OS" of earlier systems, you really have to look more at the OS of earlier personal computers. Like the Apple II, Commodore series, Atari, and others. In those, there really was no "OS", you had the programming language and operating system both combined into a single package. And almost every company (including the 3 I just listed) all used the exact same "Operating System", Microsoft Basic.

    And in those "Operating Systems", you had about as much power as you had in the older mainframe operating systems of decade previous. Load, save, run.
     

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