CIA Malcolm Howard Deathbed Confession - I Brought Down WTC7

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  1. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Scott was the first to notify me of this alleged deathbed confession that is currently being circulated on the Web. So I am of course giving Scott full credit for the discovery.



    Please note this is a 3rd party narration and that Malcolm Howard does not actually speak. There currently is no way to verify the authenticity of the story and it should be noted that if you Google it, you will find at least 2 or 3 similar videos with different narrators and other articles. The most prominent article comes from a site called "YourNewsWire".

    http://yournewswire.com/cia-911-wtc7/
     
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    It's satire. The same author wrote articles like;

    "North Korea Threatens Retaliation As Kim Jong-un Deported From UK - North Korean leader Kim Jong-un was detained at London Heathrow airport for 12 hours before being deported after attempting to enter the United Kingdom in disguise and using a fake tourist visa"

    and

    "Donald Trump Strongly Denies Gay Putin Rumors - Donald Trump has named Vladimir Putin as his favourite world leader and revealed he sometimes thinks about the Russian strongman while taking a bath."

    He once also wrote a similar article about a former MI5 agent deathbed confession about being involved in princess Diana's murder.
     
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    ROFLMAO

    Americans are more stupid than CIA agents think? Shocking!!! :roflol:

    psik
     
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    Do you have any evidence that it is strictly satire or are you assuming it is because of the author's past articles? Note I'm also skeptical about this story but because of its nature, it would good to know for sure if it's a hoax so it can be put to bed. If it isn't, that would also be important to know. There are so many stories out there about 9/11 that it's difficult to determine fact from fiction at times.
     
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    Posted on a similar thread at JREF.. I had a chuckle.

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    That doesn't answer the question. I am not a member of JREF and the last time I read 9/11 posts at that site most of them were about ridiculing anyone and everything that didn't agree 100% with the OCT. So what evidence if any do you have besides a "chuckle"?
     
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    I'm guessing you're probably correct.

    Or the CIA. But the good news is that it brings awareness to those who have no clue that WTC7 was brought down and details the controversy. So even if it's fake, those who put it out there with that agenda in mind could have it backfire on them. Let's face it those who know the OCT is a crock aren't going to change their minds about that after finding out this is a hoax (if it is one). So this only affects those who bought the OCT.
     
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    That's what I thought, no evidence other than a "chuckle" and a hope that it's not true. Personally, I'm looking for real confirmation either way, not a "chuckle".

    So to take both sides, here are some points:

    The story is 100% true.

    That indicates the worst possible scenario. It confirms suspicions that elements within the US government planned and carried out 9/11 and that the CIA is indeed a rogue criminal agency that controls a significant portion of the US government. It also means that domestic terrorists that infiltrated the US government murdered over 3,000 people on 9/11 and were deeply involved in massacring hundreds of thousands more in the Middle East using 9/11 as pretext and invented the endless war on terror. It also confirms that these criminal factions are doing everything in their power to destroy the Constitution and abrogate all protected rights. It also means Americans better be prepared to try to oust these criminals or else face the consequences of doing nothing.

    The story is 100% false (I personally lean heavily here).

    1. Who is the person in the photo wearing an oxygen mask?
    2. Why go through the trouble of inventing such a story in detail?
    3. What is the ultimate objective?
    4. Does the author actually expect to achieve that objective?
     
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    Snopes claims it's fake news. But then again Snopes also claims:

    The conspiracy theory that WTC7 was brought down through a secret controlled demolition (thereby establishing that the 9/11 attacks were a “false flag operation” and/or an “inside job”) have been comprehensively debunked, with the evidence demonstrating that fire alone caused the building’s collapse.

    http://www.snopes.com/cia-agent-confesses-wtc7/

    If you click on the link called "debunked", it leads to the Popular Mechanics article as the authoritative source for the alleged "debunking". So much for the credibility of Snopes. The only supporting argument Snopes uses for their "fake news" claim is their claim that YourNewsWire often publishes fake news.

    As an aside, if you read the comments following the YouTube videos of Malcolm Howard's alleged deathbed confession, nearly all agree that WTC7 was controlled demolished.

    I've done an exhaustive search to see if I can find anything that confirms or rejects the story but haven't been able to find anything reliable either way. At this point I'm taking the position that the story is unreliable but I haven't been able to come up with any reasonable theory (other than an attempt to discredit anything that contradicts the OCT) why the story might be a hoax.

    My prior post lists some of the ramifications of such a revelation (if true) are. That would explain why some posters are quick to claim the story is a hoax, they are absolutely terrified that it might be true (cognitive dissonance personified).
     
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    If 9/11 was an inside job, all the prospective sources will be dead long before their information reaches you.
     
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    The same reasons behind all of the countless other hoaxes, satires and other fake news stories out there. People can make money from websites or YouTube, primarily from advertising which requires hits. Dramatic headlines and clickbait get views. Sometimes people just like the attention, even (or especially!) if it’s negative attention. And as you suggest, some people either so desperately want to believe something or desperately want something to be true that they’ll manufacture false evidence to support their preference.

    Nobody ever said human beings are rational.
     
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    Exactly. The worst terrorist attack on the US in history undefended by a $multi-trillion military apparatus second to none on the planet and rather than hold trials and competency hearings for those in charge, they handed out promotions.
     
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    Possibly on the money angle. Somehow I don't believe most people want this particular story to be true though. I know the official 9/11 narrative is false, that doesn't mean I hope it's true that elements within the US government planned and carried out 9/11.
     
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    Not you personally and you didn’t create the fake story but there certainly seems to be some people out there who appear to have a warped desire to believe the kind of “Illuminate” and “New World Order” stuff that feeds this kind of accusation. They’re hard to understand because they’re being irrational.
     
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    What is incredible is that a man in a cave in Afghanistan planned and implemented an act that defeated the FBI, CIA, NSA, Pentagon, Air Force, FAA, Airline security and that not one of the hijacked aircraft was intercepted.

    Four teams of hijackers scored a 100% hijacking success while security services scored 0% defending the USA.

    Everybody involved in the defense of the USA should have been publicly humiliated and fired.
     
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    True there are some who have that kind of mentality but they are a rare few, certainly not even a small minority. As anyone can see, nearly all the comments following the videos on YouTube are from those who believe WTC7 was controlled demolished. I don't believe most of these people have a desire to believe 9/11 was an inside job, they just believe it on their own volution.

    The bigger problem is the US government constantly insulting the intelligence of rational people by feeding them fairy tales such as "they did this because they hate our freedoms" and it was a "failure of imagination". They are the biggest perpetrators of disseminating fake stories for propaganda purposes to try to support their agenda.

    The CIA story, even if it's a hoax, serves to promote the 9/11 issue. There are still so many people who are unaware that WTC7 was destroyed on 9/11 and the controversy surrounding it. It's important that people get educated on the subject. Preferably of course not with fake news as the source but it does give them food for thought.
     
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    Well to be accurate, according to the official story, only 3 out of 4 teams were successful (75%). The 4th team was thwarted by an act of incredible heroism. The 3 teams however did score a 100% accuracy rate, totally unmolested by the greatest military defense system on the planet. This is also what I mean by official government fake news.
     
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    I’m not convinced. I don’t see how anyone could so easily and unconditionally believe something like this video. When you’re talking about extreme claims relating to an established controversial topic from clearly questionable sources, scepticism should be natural (after all, that’s your position). I don’t think anybody could blindly accept this kind of thing without having a predetermined bias in favour of it.

    I’d question “bigger”. It’s really all part of the same problem and I don’t see any justification in drawing such a stark line between propaganda supporting a government line and propaganda challenging it.

    I don’t think it does you line any favour to be honest. The kind of rational people you’d need to appeal to are going to be turned off by hoaxes and fakes, making it even more difficult to catch their attention when (if!) you have anything legitimate to raise. Even if you posted a real death-bed confession in the future, we’re all going to remember that time you posted the hoax one and be less inclined to believe it.
     
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    WOW. If it's being circulated on the web it must be true.
     
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    If you read the comments, many do believe the video is true. IMO they don't believe it's true because they all want it to be true, they believe it's true because they've believed WTC7 was controlled demolished well before they saw this video. I don't see it as an unconditional belief, I see it more as a belief based on guilt by association.

    Correct. As you described in my case, the clearly questionable source is the US government and the extreme claim is the official 9/11 narrative. But that doesn't mean for me that I'm biased toward any specific theory that I blindly accept as true just because it directly contradicts the official 9/11 narrative. I'm still looking for legitimate evidence (preferably the physical kind supported by science and/or reliable eyewitnesses if and when available) regardless of the overwhelming circumstantial evidence.

    There is not one iota of comparison for me. The US government has the power and the means that no other entity has. When the US government disseminates propaganda/fake news it's always for the purpose of getting the ignorant/gullible to support its agenda. And the US government will carry out that agenda on the basis that its story is purported to be fact. When other entities disseminate propaganda/fake news, it does not have anywhere near the effect that the US government has.

    Maybe. Personally I'd rather bring attention to the controversy as often as possible rather than remain silent. As they say SILENCE = DEATH and ignorance is not bliss.
     

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