CIA: Russia Was Helping Trump

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  1. TheGreatSatan

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    It's Red Dawn on the left. They see Russians everywhere.
     
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    Not so secret, the Cold War is over, Reagan and the Republicans won the Cold War.

    The American liberal / progressives want to continue the Cold War, In fact under Obama, Cold War ll has been reinitiated. But I seriously doubt the American left are willing to win Cold War ll. They surrendered fighting the first Cold War in 1973 didn't they ?
     
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    "SEKRET DOCUMENT" huh? Wonder how it got out? Did they find it in Clinton's deleted emails on Huma's laptop that she let her husband Weiner use for sexting adolescents?

    Did they find it in the maid's apron?

    Did Brian Williams get the exclusive on this?

    Besides: what difference, at this point, does it make?
     
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    But requires no imagination to believe that someone who mishandled classified information, lied to the FBI and Congress was the democrat nominee for president. :roll:
     
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    Didn't the CIA claim that it was a "slam-dunk" that their were WMD's in Iraq?
     
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    Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu ...
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    Jul 12, 2016 - President Obama meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ... Mr. Netanyahu survived the election, and the U.S. spending was not ... using American money to influence a foreign election, the subcommittee said.


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    Mar 22, 2015 - "There was money moving that included taxpayer U.S. dollars," John ... President Obama's role during the Israeli elections was larger than reported, ... critics, politicizes the Justice Department, spies on journalists, tries to curb ...
     
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    Rebutting with false claims? Yeah, that helps a lot. And it doesn't change anything that I said. You would seriously refer to using a private server, in answer to possibly manipulating a US election and the destabilization of Eastern Europe?

    I'm just saying, if you now siding with the Communists and Russian aggression, spitting in the faces of our allies in freedom, at least admit it. With that and Trumps protectionism and government control of markets, it is looking more and more like The American Communist Party won the election.
     
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    Maybe it's about time someone did besides our trading partners that are manipulating them to their advantage. According to Trump yesterday, we have lost over 70,000 factories sense starting free trade. We have allowed other countries to manipulate their markets to their advantage and use it to steal industries off of us.

    I think I have showed we have done the same things we are blaming Russia for doing.
     
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    No one in decades has done more to destabilize Europe than Obama has with his Middle East policies. It is his policies that allowed ISIS to grow into what they are today. One, by stupidly thinking that Russia&Iran were going to sit back and do nothing while we half arm the Syrian resistance against Assad to take him out. How he refused to give Iraq air power attack ISIS when they first came down from Syria, calling them Jr. Varsity playing soldier. Attacking Libya at a time we never better relations with them. Then just walked away and let the country fall to terrorist. All this drove millions of refugees to Europe which will never be the same again.
     
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    Better relations with Libya? Do you have any idea what happened in Libya?
     
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    So your solution is to (*)(*)(*)(*) off the great bear rather than .actually try to stop him. One of the more troubling aspect of sanctions is that it tends to unify a populace around it's leader. If you really think Putin gives a damn what the hell the rest of the world things about him you really need to bone up on Russian politics post and pre communism. Putin is the arch typical Russian nationalist, and he is the head of the dominant Russian nationalist party. Even Stalin understood that the Russian people were more motivated by patriotism than communism hence In the USSR WWII became the Great Patriotic War. You want to understand Putin you be better off studying Peter the Great than Lenin.
     
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    [video=youtube;DtWIZg5TihU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtWIZg5TihU[/video]
     
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    Long before the US or NATO got involved the embassies had closed, the oil companies had pulled out and Libyan refugees were pouring into Italy. It was bound to happen.. The tribes in the East always hated Gadaffi.
     
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    But we had to put our embassy in even after England pulled the last one out and then failed to give them extra security after asking a dozen times for more.You don't take out the government and then just walk away.
     
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    Hillary used that "private server" to mishandle classified information, that is not disputed by the FBI.

    You seem to think that not being charged for it means it wasn't done regardless of the evidence showing it was, that's just showing ignorance.

    All your dire predictions have not and probably will not happen and you have no evidence that Russia had anything to do with this election.

    All you do is cry that Hillary's emails were "stolen" or they were "hacked by the Russians" and your only evidence is your suspicion.

    Even if this were true...it does not change what was in them, I haven't seen anyone claim that they were edited. :roll:

    It never crosses your mind that just maybe she lost because people are sick of the same old sh*t and do not worship all things democrat like you do.
     
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    Sorry but that's what the CIA said.

    And they told numerous people in Congress (and Comey) in SEPTEMBER
     
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    I don't care what the CIA said...without evidence they are no more credible than you are.

    And Comey had evidence and refused to follow up on it. Why are more concerned about who leaked these emails than what they contained?

    Do allow a foreign government to make your decisions for you? If not then why do you think everyone else does?

    Corruption is corruption, it doesn't matter who exposes it! :roll:
     
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    "I don't care what the CIA said"...What are you a Trump supporter?

    the Russians hacked the Republican National Committee’s computer systems in addition to their attacks on Democratic organizations, but did not release whatever information they gleaned from the Republican networks.

    In the months before the election, it was largely documents from Democratic Party systems that were leaked to the public. Intelligence agencies have concluded that the Russians gave the Democrats’ documents to WikiLeaks.

    YOU seem to have no problem with foreign governments making your decisions for you...
     
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    No, I'm just someone who does not blindly believe everything the government tells me, unlike you.

    And neither you or the government has provided any evidence that the RNC was hacked either..."High Confidence" is not evidence.

    Dems were highly confident that Hillary would win despite the leaks and we see how that turned out.
     
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    Actually you know nothing about me. I'm very skeptical of ANYTHING I can't verify from a reliable source.

    How about you? Do you believe the Comet Pizza stories simply because it falls into your world view?
     
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    You're not skeptical of anything unless it is damaging to Hillary, your taking the word of an organization that has already been caught lying to congress about torture with no physical evidence of these current accusations and somehow think their confidence is evidence.

    They don't sound very reliable to me, if they are not afraid of lying to congress what makes you think they are worried about lying to you?

    And I could care less about comet pizza, conspiracy theories have been around longer than either of us have, and Trump had nothing to do with it.:roll:
     
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    So now you impugn our entire intelligence infra structure based on nothing more than your love of Trump.

    Wonderful
     
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    It's got nothing to do with Trump, your just p*$$ed because someone does not agree with you.

    You've provided no evidence to back up your claims other than the CIA is "highly confident" ...or anyone who disagrees with you loves Trump and agrees with him on everything.

    Sorry, that doesn't work here and if that is the best you can do then quit wasting my time.
     
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    Simply more Obama regime lying BS.
     

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