Civil Rights icon calls white wokeness 'insulting' to black Americans

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  1. Nightmare515

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    Well he's correct and it's comforting to see him calling out this nonsense. Just so folks are aware this line of thinking isn't as abnormal within the black community of America as it may seem. Often times the main black leaders who are offered a media platform from which to speak are those willing to parrot the mainstream narrative. Take a listen to some black run radio shows or podcasts and speeches given by leaders such as Robert Woodson as mentioned here. The following that they have and the ideology they preach is quite popular among the black community. The reason why most folks never heard of Robert Woodson but everybody knows Al Sharpton is because people like Sharpton have the loudest biggest mouths and their "message" is acceptable to the media. Sharpton and company have more white fans than black ones.

    He's absolutely correct, to the so called self hating guilty white people he mentions "Stop trying to help us!" Your actions are INSULTING even if you don't mean it.

    At this point I'm not sure how much of this is wrought from genuine good intentions yet missing the mark or a genuine belief that I am actually stupid because of my skin color. Everyday I am greeted with new ways we can help the black community in the most insulting ways possible. Lets lower the grading scale for black children because they aren't doing as well as everyone else. Are you saying black children are stupid and their brains are not capable to learning like everyone else so they need their grades fluffed up? Lets hire black people over other people who are more qualified via affirmative action. Are you saying black people are incapable of being properly qualified for a job and we need YOUR help to cheat for us?

    In what world have we created to where it's now completely acceptable for other people to look at black people in America as a whole and state that we are incapable of succeeding without padding our books and cheating for us? How in the hell is that NOT insulting?

    Who exactly made this determination anyway? Did black people? Or did others look upon black people with pity and make that determination for us?
     
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    Most people, especially in this woke world, fail to realize the people are free to be racist and even protected by the constitution.
     
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    "Against Democrat" ? What does that even mean? Which "Democrat" did they vote Against?
    Anyway you are making contradicting statements. You admitt that B,acks in the South were terrorized not to vote but then you claim that they were forced to vote but vote for the party in powers. So we're Blacks encoraged to vote of not?
     
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    Wow. These woke white leftists sound like the biggest racists of all.

    Worse, if you don't align with their women's, it's because you're racist.

    Lol. Idiotic.
     
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    All of them LMAO....

    They were encouraged to vote Democrat, or be lynched ;)

     
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    Ha ha ha ha the partybof the South was the Democratic Party just as the party of thevSouth today is the Republican Party.

    So you say encouraged to "vote Democrat" so do you mean to vote for thecSouthern Democratic Party? Also what time did this alleged "encouragement" happen?
     
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    And banks requiring ID to open accounts are racist too. Clearly a systemic attempt to stop black people from saving money. Employers demanding a SS# is racsit because it presents a hurdle and low level of responsibility to remembers the digits. Keep them unemployed and poor. And those darned airlines requiring ID....don’t they know it’s hard for black people to get ID just to hop on a plane? That’s racist too. The intent is to prevent blacks from traveling.

    So much racism everywhere in this country. If only we were more like Africa where black people thrive, free from oppression and white rule, where they’ve developed their own technology that far surpasses what the white man has developed. Oh sorry, that’s WAKANDA. A fictional place. But be sure that you NEVER refuse to salute such a place if you’re white...because that’s racist too. I wish that was a joke. :)
     
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    It is a very accurate representation, you just don't want to see it.

    Wow. The lack of insight is staggering. Its no wonder conservatives tell so many lies to themselves about why minorities don't vote for them. Pro tip: when you treat the handful of minority voters who actually support you as a shield against the racism that undoubtedly exists in parts of American conservatism you just create one more reason for them not to vote for you. BTW, minorities know that you think this way, so next time you tell yourself that they have been 'fooled' by 'propaganda' you are basically saying they are too stupid to understand what you are doing. They aren't.

    That is laugh out loud funny. You elect people on skin colour and gender, its just that you are so used to conflating white men wiht 'merit' that you can't see it. There is simply no way in a nation where white men are a third of the population that you produce a Congressional delegation tha tis over 80% white male without electing people based on skin colour and gender.....unless your argument is that the women & minorities who support the GOP are of such poor quality that they shouldn't hold elected office.

    You just need to stop defending entrenched prejudice as 'meritocracy', everyone sees it for what it is. Until Republican voters are comfortable having minorities represent them and stop pretending that minorities lack 'merit' you are always going to look like a 50s country club and you are always going to be stuck making poor excuses for it.

    Sure, its all that compassion you have for people not good enough to represent you in Congress. Sure, that it is. The truth is that implying that black people vote Dem to get welfare is yet another way to avoid treating them as equals. Until you accept that black people are jsut as capable of making an informed decision to vote Democrat as white people are to vote GOP you will be left implying they are stupid & lazy. I note that even when directly challenged by another poster you just can't let go of the idea that black people are fooled by propaganda. Reading this post it is clear why.

    I'll leave 'gross oversimplification' to people who wear MAGA hats. The reasons why Republicans can't even offer a simple, accurate description of why minorities overwhelmingly vote Democrat are clear every time one of you tries to explain it. You have provided yet another fine example here. Thank you.
     
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    In addition, you have people like me who have racist family. I'm not just going to disown them over racism (although there is a degree of racism that if met, I probably would disown). We are your best allies for the slow erosion of racism.i have made progress over the decades.

    I think people need to be careful when discussing suspected racists. Most are not evil. At this point the hateful rhetoric from the left toward racists is exceeding that of my racist family!
     
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    Well said and very true. Also true in my opinion is that there is more racism today on the part of blacks than there is on whites. That is surely a response to the racism they have suffered. But those who remember the times prior to the passing of the civil rights act can see the shift clearly. In time people will get over it. I do believe that.
     
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    Well yes, you know! Places like Selma the birthplace of civil right and stronghold of Dixiecrats and oppression..

    Who led the civil rights march in Alabama?
    I guess it helps having a Daddy from Bibb County, Alabama ;) But you're doing pretty well avoiding history ;)
     
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    Gentlemen, the concept of "welfare-in-return-for-votes" is not a new one... not at all. Lyndon Johnson absorbed the lessons he learned from his mentor, the great Democrat demi-god, Frankie Roosevelt, very adroitly.

    You can practice essentially the same theory on creatures with less-than-human mentalities, too! Throw out enough peanuts to the squirrels in your backyard and before long, they'll come right up to you with 'that' look in their eyes.

    It doesn't matter, then, whether the 'test subjects' are smart or "dumb" -- all that needs to exist is the promise of SOMETHING-FOR-NOTHING, and, like magic, you've got an instant 'constituency'! :banana:

    Hint: Why do you think that anybody votes "Democrat" in the first place...?! 8)
     
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    Then why don’t whites vote dem at the same rate as blacks? They get welfare too....
     
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    Actually, more and more Whites have voted for Democrats... which is how we've gotten saddled with Biden/Harris! And, yes, you bet --they're 'chewing at the straps' to get their hands on that $1,400 right now. Remember the backyard 'squirrels' I mentioned earlier? Those 'squirrels' come in ALL colors....

    Look, the brutal truth is that aside from putting three Justices on the Supreme Court who weren't total hyperliberal stooges (like Obama's Sotomayor and Kagan), Trump didn't get much done to increase the long-term appeal to most mainstream voters (of any color) by way of Republican Party actions for them!

    Example: Trump 'reduced taxes' -- somewhat -- although it wasn't a big reduction for the Middle Class. But, his incessant clamoring to crush interest rates weakened the dollar and destroyed fair returns for people on their savings accounts, and that COST them a hell of a lot more than the 'tax reduction' benefitted them! And why did he do that? TO KEEP DRUMMING UP THE BIG, OVERVALUED STOCK MARKET 'CASINO' RALLY, which he was so sure would get him re-elected! And it probably would have, but along came the 'virus'....

    Truth? Once people get used to the idea that they can sit on their confused, co-dependent asses and WHINE, instead of having to get up, get out, and work hard to achieve more, they'll vote for ANYONE who promises to give them 'something-for-nothing'....
     
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    Because some people of every race, don’t like being told they’re victims, helpless, or just don’t agree with Democrat policy? Being co-dependent on the govt to feed or clothe themselves isn’t appealing. Oh what...how...impossible!!!!
     
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    It will be possible, for a while.

    Reflect on this: we used to count our national debt in "millions", followed quickly by "billions". Now we count it in "trillions". Next, as the Federal Reserve continues to churn out more imaginary money at zero-percent interest, we'll eventually go on to counting it in "quadrillions", etc., etc., ad infinitum.... :psychoitc:

    I used to think that this enormous, almost incomprehensible insanity would have to come an end, but now I'm not so sure. As long as central banks can just go on 'adding-zeros' to all sums, then in theory, there won't ever be a "day of reckoning".... :roll:
     
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    Why doesn’t welfare get whites to vote democrats at 90% like you claim it does for blacks?
     
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    So why isn’t it 90% of every race voting democrat for handouts?
     
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    Oooh! Are you daring to suggest that maybe (MAYBE) there is some difference-between-the-races?!

    BE CAREFUL, Mello. That kind of thinking borders on being ANATHEMA in hyperliberal Democrat circles.... 8)
     
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    No, I don’t think that’s why blacks vote dem. But you do. So why isn’t it 90% of whites?
     
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    Be patient! The more hopelessly dependent everyone becomes on government welfare handouts, the more of ALL races we're likely to see voting Democrat....

    And probably the LAST to lose themselves in it will be East Asians ("Oriental"), not Whites....
     
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    it does not appear insulting, african Americans should be overprotected instead of under protected.

    they are disproportionately oppressed and should be coddled by whites with privilege
     
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    Good question. Why don’t other races have the same levels of single motherhood as blacks? Why don’t other races, regardless of which country they live in, have as high rates of crime and violence? Why don’t other races perform as badly in school?

    Why is it that blacks that do vote Republican are more educated and informed than their Democrat voting counterparts? Why don’t Republican voting blacks see themselves as victims or think EVERYONE is out to get them?

    Democrats have spent decades convincing blacks they are victims and LIE about others so that they can keep that voting base. Why is it that when read quotes from Biden, blacks think Trump said them?

    Questions we may never know the answer to :)
     
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    Yes it was Dixiecrats not Democrats.

    The Civil rights marches were led by John Lewis and Bob Mants of SNCC and from the Southern Christian Leadership Conference .
    There were Whites who joined in the marches in fact a well represented contingent of Northern Democratic Party faithful from the NY Jewish community.

    Of I know this because I obviously know and understand history, you should learn some history instead of just spouting inaccuracies and claiming that it was only the Democratic Party in the South opposed to civil rights. I think that you know the truth but maybe you are afraid to say the truth for some reason. SAD!
     
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    Thanks for confirming my point. It’s inevitable.
    Got any proof that blacks who vote republican are more educated? When whites get more educated...they vote dem.
     

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