Climate activists climb, superglue themselves to globe at Universal Studios

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  1. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Me? Again, I'm not behind this stuff. Its loved by the likes of the Tories. I'm just proving how little right wingers know.

    An example they give concerns energy tariffs. The default becomes the green tariff. Because of status quo bias, that's then the standard outcome (and is chosen more then if consumers had to directly select it)
     
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    Absolutely... Your ignorance here is mind boggling. Do you even know what paternalism is??
     
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    Rotten tomatoes.. Bad Cabbage... All the medieval favorites...
     
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    You still haven't worked it out? I don't use libertarian paternalism. Right wingers do. It originates from Nobel prize winner. Certainly the Austrian school will have some issues with it, but its ultimately about maintaining freedom of choice.

    Google it. Just getting you to learn some of the right wing analysis will be a success!
     
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    LOL... still laughing. A libertarian wouldn't ever be paternalistic. That's the fallacy. Period. It's why I asked you if you actually knew what paternalism was. Obviously not. Total fail on your part..
     
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    You're still being useful! I didn't construct libertarian paternalism, neither did I assume that it could be used instead of more direct regulation.

    I did say that you're unaware of how libertarian paternalism is used by right wingers to critique left wing radicalism. You hammer that home in every one of your responses...
     
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    And the difference between your average tory and your average laborite since thatcher is little more than the name. The whole thing is nonsense you can't control for individual biases any more than you can control what the weather will be a hundred year from now.
     
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    LOL... more fun... Love it. Again, paternalism is antithetical to libertarianism. I know, you don't get it. And yes, you're the only one who's ever, to my knowledge introduced the concept of it. The fact that you fundamentally don't understand it, well, that seems to be a serious gap in your programming....
     
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    Given the Tories adopt market fundamentalism, that's spectacularly naive!

    Private business doesn't agree. Reacting to cognitive bias, for example, is a key element of marketing and pricing policy.
     
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    I would leave them glued up their a while. Let 'em think about what they've done :)
     
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    Your responses continue to be gloriously low brow. I didn't construct the name, nor do I believe its effective for the climate change debate. I've simply referred to how right wingers use it to suggest regulatory responses to market failure are not required. And I've referred to how right wingers aren't even aware of this stuff. You merely confirm that I am correct in my evaluation.
     
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    That's great! :applause::roflol:
     
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    Again.. entirely laughable. This is what, your 8th? response suggesting that you have an authoritative position here? Again. just as laughable now as it was 8 posts ago... "right wingers" aren't being paternalistic if they assume that regulatory redresses aren't being advocated by them. That isn't what paternalism is. Paternalism are folks, like you, who decide that only they know what is best, so they create legislation to enforce your very puerile view of the world because you don't trust others will abide by your egregiously basic notions, lack of vision, or otherwise infantile insistence that you want to be respected for your authority.... :roflol:
     
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    I do seem to know more right wing theory than you do. That does seem strange!

    You're beginning to go off on one. The amusing element is that you bogusly suggested that I somehow creatively invented libertarian paternalism. I didn't unfortunately. Whilst it can't solve climate change, it's made bucket loads of dosh from right wing government. I'd find such profit-making ironic.
     
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    The problem is not science. Fake Science is the problem - and it is a big problem now.
     
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    Yeah, that.
    Giggles
     
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    I think Our buddy here is stuck smack dab in the midst of some modified and noisome Fabian socialist concept and it obviously doesn't translate well on this side of the ocean or for that matter outside England's balmy shores.
     
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    More nonsense! Which bit of 'used by right wing government' did you struggle with?
     
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    What part of leftists believing right wing governments, of which there are none in Europe since Lady Thatcher's rule came to an end, makes what leftist believe true? Hell even Ukip, or whatever the BNP is calling itself this week is socialist, at least economically, ditto Le Pen.
     
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    More ludicrous comment. UKIP identify with neo fascists. The government has followed Thatcherism since 1979, even with Teflon Tony.

    We have an analysis focused on maintaining freedom of choice and avoiding government regulation. That has been used as part of a strategy stripping away green policies (including stripping away of regulations). And you rant about socialism...
     
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    Nonsense, Ukip identifies as neo fascist, but read their economic program strait up socialism whatever else you want to pretend. Why do you think the tories can't put together a working Brexit plan? The don't want it any more than the laborites and are trying to stall it into submission
     
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    This is so silly, there's no point in responding to it!

    It amuses me that, when confronted with an approach designed to avoid regulation and to celebrate the market, right wingers stick cheese in their ears and pretend its left wing. My original point continues to be proved!
     
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    It is the wording that annoys, there is nothing paternalistic about the approach.
     
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    Outside of wishful thinking, what exactly have those advocating against climate change proposed as countermeasures besides increased taxes? How to higher taxes help prevent changes in climate patterns attributed to human activity?
     
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    I didn't choose the wording. Blame your fellow right wingers. The idea that marginal changes in behaviour through nudging will solve the crisis is as optimistic as 'a few pence on fuel and all's well'
     

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