Climate change: ‘human fingerprint’ found on global extreme weather

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  1. Homer J Thompson

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    Thanks for that.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe in the expanding earth theory, so if the earth keeps getting larger, the water level will go down accordingly. .. which would make it great for Venice and Miami. :roll:
     
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    How exactly does the Earth expand....I've never heard this one before.

    It sounds like a fun theory to make fun of.
     
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    No, they rate it as the biggest threat of the 21st century.
     
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    https://www.epa.gov/climate-change-science/future-climate-change

    its also not that likely. So from my POV the worst is a lot less than 8.6 and of course there's the fact that i'll have been dead for 60 years (not to mention my house will still be above the water line at that point, I just might need a boat to get to work) Personally I'm more concerned about WW3, or having to fend of looters that want to kill me for 6 can's of peas after the US experiences a major crushing financial failure that makes the 2008 crash look like nothing.
     
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    it sounds awesome! I could use a bigger kitchen, its kind of cramped.

    don't anyone disappoint me and say my house won't grow.
     
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    There's a lot on Youtube, and it intrigues me. They find that all the continents fit together like a jigsaw puzzle on a smaller earth. Also that the ocean floors are much younger than the continents. ..especially where the faults are. Another thing that confirms the theory would be the dinosaurs, since their legs would not have been able to support their bodies in the gravity we have today so the earth must have been smaller.

    Anyway it's an interesting theory that seems much more reasonable than the one about faults and subductions. Check it out, seriously!




     
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    OMFG...you were serious?

    I cannot even comment appropriately.
     
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    The numbers don't lie.
     
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    But....You Do.
     
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    I know, I know, you prefer hype over the facts.
     
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    Why do you believe that this talking point is something worth mentioning when, at the time that you are referencing, there were six times as many climatologists who predicted a global warming event?
     
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    Are you really going to hang your hat on "the numbers don't lie?"

    What about the numbers which show the average global temperature is increasing?
    What about the numbers which show that the sea levels are rising?
    What about the numbers which show that the ocean is acidifying?
    What about the numbers which show that the arctic and antarctic are melting at astonishing rates?
    What about the numbers which show that the corals are bleaching in record numbers?
    What about the numbers which show that CO2 Concentration is hitting amounts not seen since before the existence of modern man?
     
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    Isn't it odd that given carbon taxes isn't gonna happen here in the US, that no attempt is being made at world wide land management, adding billions of trees, and the halt to rain forest deforestation, in order to pull down co2 levels? Why is that, IF this is such an important problem? You tell me the reason. It looks like if gov't cannot create a new stream of money taken from the non elites, which goes into the hands of the elites, they are just not concerned about AGW. So they are not serious about it, nor are the hysterical, for it they were we would already have been adding flora. This does not help the concern for AGW at all.
     
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    Then demonstrate both the direct and the casual link that the study has apparently found.
     
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    How would you like me to demonstrate that for you?
     
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    You claimed that the study was able to find a direct and casual link between human behavior and climate change. You are claiming that the link was indeed found. Such a claim would not be so casually made, unless you were confident in such being correct. So where is the link that science has apparently proven as existing?
     
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    Again, I am not really sure how you would like me to demonstrate the link. The best I can think to do is to point you towards the study itself.

    You can find that here: http://www.nature.com/articles/srep45242

    The abstract says the following:

     
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    Which does not actually prove that a link exists. The structure of the language indicates that a link is believed to exist, but has not actually been proven as existing.
     
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    ...and how might you suggest that these researchers go about proving the link exists?
     
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    Theoreticals are rarely "Proven" especially in this field of study. Instead they are incorporated into the lager database and used as additional components for increased accuracy of modelling which is also not meant to prove as much as predict. The only "Proof" any scientist expects in this situation is the unfortunate realization of their models.
    Most scientists who study the climate change phenomenon understand it will not be corrected and merely hope to lessen the impact through preparation for inevitable human impact. It no longer even matters who believes what, they will keep looking and know we cannot do a damn thing anymore.
     
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    Climatologists, astrologists, cosmetologists, tossologists - which 1 is not fake?

    You wouldn’t accept as a reality that warming is studied by warming scientists and climatologists do not understand a thing in warming science, would you?

    You wouldn’t accept as a reality that 99.9% of scientists have no clue about warming, would you?

    You wouldn’t accept as a reality that 99.99% of people have no clue about warming and you are one of them?
     
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    All are fake to the bone.
    There is only one number and that number tells that if tomorrow atmosphere turns to be 100% made out of CO2 the overage global temperature
    would not change even 1 degree.
    There are laws of warming, laws of nature and no fake numbers or fake scientists can overturn them.
     
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    It is not affected by radioactive decay, it creates it.
     
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    Such cannot be explained, because such is not possible. The world as it is currently does far more to affect the climate than anything mankind can do. The amount of pollution produced by industry pales in comparison to what is produced by erupting volcanoes, and the amount of poisonous fumes that are expelled during eruptions. If the super volcano in yellowstone national park should ever truly erupt as scientists are theorizing, those that survive the blast will see a true change in the climate that dwarfs whatever mankind could hope to present to the equation.
     

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