Climate Change Consequences

Hi,

Climate change is something I know literally nothing about beyond the standard pleatitudes from both sides. I have been busy researching other things.

So, what will the consequences be? I hear a lot of talk of extinction of the human race within our lifetimes. Is it really that dire? How will it happen?

What sort of sea level rise is anticipated? Hundreds of meters? It will presumably be slow, so is it not a bit rich to suggest that everyone in Amsterdam or New Orleans will be killed? Will they not flee the city?

Thanks.

 

Really? Where did you hear that?

Click on the link below and educate yourself on climate change. This link is to the NASA, so if you are a rightie you will most likely dismiss this as fake information without bothering to read any of it.

Anyway, if you really want to educate yourself on climate change, this is a great place to start.

https://climate.nasa.gov/

 

The consequences of Climate Change are wide-ranging and quite dire, but not so dire as leading to the extinction of the human race (probably) or the destruction of the planet (definitely). Now, it is possible that Climate Change could be a contributing factor to the wide-spread destruction of humans through the increased conflict that can result, like the Syrian Civil War, or the fact that it is widely deemed a massive threat multiplier. But that's not to say that the direct effects of climate change would cause humans to die out.

As for the consequence of Climate Change, we are talking about a warming planet, rising sea levels, ocean acidification, melting glaciers, increased risk and increased severity of extreme weather events, and higher death rates. The rates at which each of these are occurring, currently, is extremely fast by geologic standards (roughly 50x faster), but relatively slow by human standards. How much those rates will change or accelerate in the future is a subject of great debate and a subject that is completely dependent on the actions that we take in the very near future.

I encourage you to look through the following links:
https://www.nrdc.org/stories/are-effects-global-warming-really-bad
http://www.ucsusa.org/our-work/glob...d-impacts/global-warming-impacts#.WOOz9_nytaQ
https://climate.nasa.gov/effects/
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/global-warming-effects/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_global_warming

 

No reputable scientist says that.
The near-term consequences will be shifts in weather patterns - extraordinary drought in one region - excessive floods in another area - caused by warming of ocean currents - think El Nino on steroids.
Rising sea levels are underway, but are gradual.
It is worth noting that the US dept of Defense regards Global Warming as a major threat, so there are really not "two sides" there is fact, and there is denial of fact.

 

We've already experienced some of the worst Climate Changes. 22,000 years ago the oceans were 400 feet more shallow. When the climate changed, the Asians who lived on the Bering Land Bridge moved East and South. We probably call them Indians or Native Americans. DNA evidence tells us that Europeans who probably walked across the exposed parts of the Atlantic Ocean bottom did the nasty with Native Americans long before Columbus sailed across. There were some major consequences going on --- sex and everything --- when the climate changed.

It's probably going to change again whether or not we park our SUVs since the sun spot number is sinking to levels not seen since the beginning of the last century. It may even sink to levels last seen before the industrial revolution during the Little Ice Age. It'll take a few 11 year cycles before we know how much ,,, and in a few generations as the sun gets hotter, future generations can again disagree what caused the climate to change.

 

We've gained a scorching .2 degrees in temperature. All the polar bears are dead. All arctic ice has melted. The snows on the Himalayas is gone.
Florida and Baja California are under water, just as Al Gore predicted. Where have you been that you didn't notice that the dire predictions made actually came true? Yes, the sky has fallen.

 

Ya mean climate change like this:

At the end of the last Ice Age, the Sahara Desert was just as dry and uninviting as it is today. But sandwiched between two periods of extreme dryness were a few millennia of plentiful rainfall and lush vegetation.

During these few thousand years, prehistoric humans left the congested Nile Valley and established settlements around rain pools, green valleys, and rivers.

The ancient climate shift and its effects are detailed in the July 21 issue of the journal Science.

Some 12,000 years ago, the only place to live along the eastern Sahara Desert was the Nile Valley. Being so crowded, prime real estate in the Nile Valley was difficult to come by. Disputes over land were often settled with the fist, as evidenced by the cemetery of Jebel Sahaba where many of the buried individuals had died a violent death.

But around 10,500 years ago, a sudden burst of monsoon rains over the vast desert transformed the region into habitable land.

This opened the door for humans to move into the area, as evidenced by the researcher's 500 new radiocarbon dates of human and animal remains from more than 150 excavation sites.

"The climate change at [10,500 years ago] which turned most of the [3.8 million square mile] large Sahara into a savannah-type environment happened within a few hundred years only, certainly within less than 500 years," said study team member Stefan Kroepelin of the University of Cologne in Germany.

Frolicking in pools

In the Egyptian Sahara, semi-arid conditions allowed for grasses and shrubs to grow, with some trees sprouting in valleys and near groundwater sources. The vegetation and small, episodic rain pools enticed animals well adapted to dry conditions, such as giraffes, to enter the area as well.

Humans also frolicked in the rain pools, as depicted in rock art from Southwest Egypt.

In the more southern Sudanese Sahara, lush vegetation, hearty trees, and permanent freshwater lakes persisted over millennia. There were even large rivers, such as the Wadi Howar, once the largest tributary to the Nile from the Sahara.

"Wildlife included very demanding species such as elephants, rhinos, hippos, crocodiles, and more than 30 species of fish up to 2 meters (6 feet) big," Kroepelin told LiveScience.

http://www.livescience.com/4180-sahara-desert-lush-populated.html

 

If you ask a democrat, Trump is the cause and the world is going to explode any second now....

 

How far back are the climate change folks looking? If you go back to the beginning of the earth and see the weather back then and compare it to today's climate you might decide it has changed. What does the change mean? What caused the change? No one can answer these questions. In my opinion I think people like to spout bad news, even made up bad news. Many times they will exaggerate bad news. Also some people are prone to prophesy because it makes them look more intelligent than you and I. They want you to think they have divine inspiration. Just look at the people who talk about climate change -- their appearance usually says it all.

 

The Earths climate changes all the time.
Man has nothing to do with it.
All "evidence" suggesting its man's fault, produced to date has since been proved "faked" and "cooked" to fit an agenda.

Man is entirely to puny to affect the planet, it has its own cycles of warming and cooling and there is nothing you can do about it except adapt.

Man made climate change is fake new, and lies, its another elitist agenda to control the masses and the money.

 

There has been no warming for almost two decades. Even the IPCC had to admit that in their 2014 Annual report. Much of the evidence for rising seas has now been shown to be due to subsidence of adjacent land caused by deep wells being used for drinking water. It's why the sea level rise has been so limited geographically instead of being widespread. The northern hemisphere has seen fewer tornadoes and hurricanes over the past decade than ever, or at least as long as records have been kept. It was just reported last week that the *southern* hemisphere just saw the fewest recorded hurricanes ever. So what extreme weather events are you speaking of? It can't be droughts in North America, all of those have ended, just as they always do!

 

2014 was the hottest year on record. Until 2015 came along and then 2015 was the hottest year on record. Until 2016 came along and now 2016 is the hottest year on record.

But, sure, you keep on believing that you are smarter than the relevant experts in the field.

 

So, you quote extensively from scientific sources, and seem to accept their view of the past, yet when the scientists try to inform you we are killing our planet you don't believe them????

Curiouser and curioser...

 

Here's the problem with that analysis: Humans did not live on the planet when it first existed. In fact, humans can't live on the Planet as it first existed or even as it existed for the vast majority of its history.

That's not the point and has never been the point.

Humans are changing the Planet at a rate much, much faster than natural processes. As a result, the currently living plants and animals, which include Humans, are being dramatically affected and will continue to see the results of human induced climate change.

 

And yet you thing a government that is largely incapable of doing much of anything more complicated than killing people and blowing things up should be in charge of downsizing the human population and the economy to a size that they can efficiently micro manage.

 

How do you know the earth's climate changes all the time????
S C I E N T I S T S.
Believe them now - ignore the propaganda from the Koch Brothers and other fossil fuel merchants.

 

WHAT?
Get a grip.

 

So you admit we have had climate change for a long time, even before humans? And now that humans are here you want to stop the evolution of the changing earth? Good luck.

 

Humans are changing the planet at a rate much faster than that which would naturally occur. Somewhere north of 50 times as fast.

I don't want to stop the Earth from changing. I want to stop humans from changing the climate so quickly.

 

I am a scientist by education and work experience. Those who are married to an ideology that leaves no room for doubt in a field that we know so little about ,,, those to whom AGW is a religion are an embarrassment to science. Hide the decline.

 

Everyone of these "measurements" were greater than the last by less than the tolerances of the associated measuring devices. Thus we don't actually know if the temps were higher or lower.

I actually take temperature readings every two minutes 24/7/365. I've done so since Jan, 2012. At my location in the central US a regression analysis thru Dec, 2015 shows absolutely no warming. In fact, a graph of the max temperatures shows a DECREASE over the time span.

When i get a chance to integrate in 2016 I suspect I will see the same thing. We actually set a record last year for the fewest days over 100 deg.

 

And your local temperature reading is supposed to prove what in terms of global average temperature?

 

50 times as fast -- right. Looks like the only solution is to get rid of humans.

 

If you want to make the argument that getting rid of humans is the only solution, that is your choice.

As for the 50 times as fast, I am specifically referencing the rate of accumulation of CO2 in the atmosphere. The last time that the CO2 concentration rose by 80 points (the amount that it rose from 1900 to 2000), it took approximately 5,000 years.

 

That is total crap. You've been brainwashed by the nutty right.