No national policy as how to handle what is here now and what if coming, now Louisianan is losing land to sea levels rising and we have an administration and a party that calls climate change nonsense, seem like the inmates are running the asylum Scientists have been warning for some time about the effects of climate change on sea levels. Now climatologists and researchers say Miami could actually be engulfed by the rising tide-and sooner than you might think. “Most people talk as if Miami and Bangladesh still have a chance of surviving; most of the scientists I spoke with assume we’ll lose them within the century, even if we stop burning fossil fuel in the next decade,” New York Magazine writer David Wallace-Wells wrote of his reporting on climate change. http://www.wral.com/climatologists-say-miami-may-disappear-within-the-century/16820126/ https://phys.org/news/2017-03-louisiana-wetlands-struggling-sea-level-global.html http://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/sea-level-rise/
Land Loss in Louisiana http://www.factcheck.org/2017/03/land-loss-in-louisiana/ https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sea-level-rise-will-hit-the-us-this-century-noaa-warns/
Bring it on! Sink Miami. Gulf coast people can learn to live in homes on stilts and commute by boat. Moi's home is about 1 mile inland from the Pacific on a bluff at an elevation of 65' - 70'. Between me and there are two deep valleys and ridgelines. One is Pacific Coast Highway. I figure I might have an ocean front property with a dock on an island being my neighborhood that is like its' own "peak" and dropping on all sides. On the flip side, methane leaks may halt global warming acting as a heat sink. Not a greenhouse gas in the oceans. Are methane seeps in the Arctic slowing global warming?http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/05/methane-slowing-global-warming-arctic Good news about climate change is especially rare in the Arctic. But now comes news that increases in one greenhouse gas—methane—lead to the dramatic decline of another. Research off the coast of Norway’s Svalbard archipelago suggests that where methane gas bubbles up from seafloor seeps, surface waters directly above absorb twice as much carbon dioxide (CO2) as surrounding waters. The findings suggest that methane seeps in isolated spots in the Arctic could lessen the impact of climate change. To find out just how much methane the Arctic Ocean was contributing to the global balance, biogeochemist John Pohlman of the U.S. Geological Survey in Woods Hole, Massachusetts, set out to measure the gas close to the ocean surface above known methane seeps near Svalbard during the Arctic summer. He and his team were constantly surprised by how little methane they found. But the bigger surprise was that surface water CO2 levels dropped whenever their ship crossed a seep. “[The CO2 data] became the most important part of the story,” Pohlman says. When combined with other data—sudden drops in water temperature, along with increases in dissolved oxygen and pH at the surface—the lower CO2 levels were telltale signs of bottom water upwelling and photosynthesis, . . . It all balances out. Ghia Moi r > g Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic, regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
Here's a national policy for you: Drop the national flood insurance program for coastal areas. The value of the property should drop like a rock and then the government can eminent domain those areas. If only liberals would stop buying seaside homes on property they think is going to vanish...
Florida has been subsiding (i.e. the land has been going down) for literally decades. It started long ago with the draining of the Everglades. It has continued apace with all the wells drilled to provide water for an increasing population. This has been a problem long before global warming. Louisiana has had a similar problem for at least a century. It's why all the dikes are needed around New Orleans. Again, this has been a problem long before global warming. If global warming were to stop tomorrow Miami Beach would still be slowly disappearing! So would New Orleans. Dropping national flood insurance for coastal areas is an eminently wise proposal!
Are you comparing climatologists with meteorologists? Moi r > g Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic, regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
Love the hysterical alarmism based not on real world data but models. First, sea level rise shows no acceleration in any tide gauge which are the only things used for coastal planning. Second, CO2 is only considered to be significant after 1950 according to the IPCC. Third, since sea level rise is about 4/5ths sea level and 1/5th land subsidence in Florida sea level rise is only 1.792 mm/y historically. Forth, the highest point of land in Florida is Britton Hill at 312ft so at 1.792 mm/y and if land quits sinking it will take 53,067 years to cover Florida. At 2.24 mm/y historically it will take 42,454 years. The highest point in Miami is 24 ft so at 1.782 mm/y it will take 4,082 years and at 2.24, 3,265 years. Math and facts beat hysteria every time.
Well, I'm looking out my window at the sea wall right now during high tide, and it's looking kinda grim compared to 10 years ago. South Beach added millions of dollars of extra pumps last year to keep sea water from backing up into the streets. They raised the road bed just north of me to keep it from flooding. There are several very expensive areas in Ft. Lauderdale where the streets are flooding at high tide - didn't do that ten years ago. Problem is, Florida is on the edge of the Gulf Stream - so like swirling water in a glass you get a magnified effect on our shores. A 1/2 rise in sea level translates into much higher tides than in the past. Now whether you believe the cause to be man-made or not - it is an issue that will effect millions of Americans and hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue from Florida businesses. So we can continue to ignore the issue as purely a political one - or we address the need to start planning for the future. My guess is that it remains a political issue that will only be addressed when it hits crisis levels and cost hundreds of billions more deal with. Whatever. I don't have kids and won't live forever. But if I had kids ...
Maybe it is time for you to relocate to higher ground! Let the property owners pay for their sea wall. Why should I be taxed for it. I would suggest you consult a Dutch firm. Really! Climate change happens. Sea levels change. Who are we to demand the globe go into a state of climate stasis? And what responsibility for the peoples of Florida who have plated their state in weather warming asphalt, cement and stucco? New State Motto for Florida - "The Gimme State" Moi r > g Let Pay For Florida's Sea Wall. Makes as much sense as fighting rising seas!
If we freed the Mississippi from cement conduits, silt might again add to the Louisiana coast. Although I favor less Louisiana, not more
So, as other's have said, why don't you move to higher ground if you believe in G.W.? And why don't the high priests of G.Warmingism, Al Gore and DiCaprio, lead by example instead of trying to control by the fear of the doom and gloom they prophesize, none of which has come true?
Climatologists. Meteorologists are fairly accurate. And I don't mean to throw Climatologists under the bus. It is insanely difficult to make these types of predictions. I would also state that any long range forecast or prediction is tough. Remember Sir Thomas Malthus? For the past 40 years we have been hearing about how fossil fuels are about to run out.
No we don't need to throw them under the bus, they all can't be Dr. George Fischbeck Now there was a "weatherman"! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Fischbeck "Dr. George" did not work for the gov't but a private company. <Hint> <Hint> We need to privatize weather service. Not just read the gov't forecast. Then we will have better services. Maybe up to Dr. George quality. Dr. George often reported his forecast as opposed to that of the gov't. And Dr. George won. Starting at 1:15 may help get interested or amused. Moi r > g Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic, regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
Miami/dade will deal with it, the biggest problem they have is the older properties and older roads built too low before the flood plain was established. Back in the day (as recent as 3-4 decades ago) we just tossed a slab on the natural grade and kept our fingers crossed.
What must terrify them is at the present rate Miami will be drowned in 3,265 years and their decedents 108 generations from now will have to learn how to swim. That is if we are not already in another glacial period.
