Clintons Left The White House Broke?

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  1. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

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    We have all heard, many times, the claims by Hillary that when the Clintons left the White House they were dead broke.

    So broke that they had to steal furnishings when they left.

    The question is this:

    What about the presidential stipend of $400k per year that is provided to every former president? Doesn't that count as income and, for some, wealth?

    Or is this just another "woe is me" attempt at a pity party by one of the biggest liars ever know, Hillary Clinton?

    And that is not even calling into question how since that time they have managed to acquire the $100 million dollar personal wealth that they currently have.
     
  2. Lesh

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    Their debts exceeded their income and they didn't steal furniture.

    Sigh...so many lies...
     
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    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    They -did- steal furniture (don't bother running a googling for politifact, that article ACKNOWLEDGES they had to return stuff and rationalizes their theft in obvious ways). They -did- vandalize the WH. And they -were- several million dollars in debt, primarily due to legal fees, that a stipend wouldn't cover.

    16 years later they are filthy rich due to their own CORRUPTION in selling favors as "speaking fees" to banks and other special interests, to the tune of over 150 MILLION since 2001. Now I can see an ex president getting a little money speaking. GWB does it to the tune of about $150k a pop. This is -nothing- like the obvious GRAFT speaking fees averaging about $500k for Hillary!? one of the worst speakers ever? to speak? and that's not enough smoking graft gun right there? Of course it is.

    Part of that graft was payback for Bill's suspension of the antitrust laws in the 90s for big banks that created "too big to fail" in the banking industry that Fauxca and the Bern rail about... ironically since it's their own ex Pres who DID THAT. Who paid lots of that $150 mill in speaking fees? The exact same banks Clinton allowed to merge in the 90s, which turned out to be one of the main factors in the mortgage collapse of 2008 that stole hundreds of billions of savings from middle class Americans. Clinton sold US out for HIS own greed, and Hillary will be more of the same.
     
  4. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

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    Yes there are, and you seem intent on continuing them. Actual research should be your friend, but obviously you ignore that.
     
  5. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    I'm less concerned with the condition that the Clintons left the White House in than with the condition the last Republican
    President left the country in.

    Just say'n.
     
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    When debts exceed income, the normal response is one of two things: reduce your debts, or increase your income. Thanks to the Clinton Foundation, the Clintons decided on option 2...
     
  7. Lesh

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    Sanskrit just told you that you were lying.

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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Mostly due to speaking fees.

    The remainder came from what they received in pay as Senator and former Prez
     
  8. Lesh

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    Oh and what Politifact actually said

    The Clinton White House furnishings in question, which were donated in 1993, included two sofas, an easy chair and an ottoman, worth $19,900, from Steve Mittman; a kitchen table and four chairs, valued at $3,650, from Lee Ficks; a $2,843 sofa from Brad Noe; $1,170 in lamps from Stuart Schiller; and a $1,000 needlepoint rug from David Martinous, according to the Post.

    Mittman, Noe and Joy Ficks, the widow of Lee Ficks, told the Post that their donations were gifts to the White House, not the Clintons. The contributions were intended to complement a 1993 White House redecoration project.

    That was apparently news to the Clintons and their transition team, which said that they were not aware that the gifts were not intended to go to them.

    “All of these items were considered gifts to us,” Hillary Clinton said in 2001, according the Post. She added, “That’s what the permanent record of the White House showed. … But if there is a different intent, we will certainly honor the intention of the donor.”
     
  9. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    rich people often do not understand what "broke" means, look at Romney, so broke he had to sell some of his trust funds to pay for college?

    heck, even Trump thinks he would of been successful if he wasn't born rich

    just cause you do not have disposable income doesn't mean your broke if you have lots of wealth tied up in investments and the like... at least not to people that are really broke

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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cause and effect. You mention the effect but are not accurate as to the cause.

    Democrats who blame Bush for the slowdown ought not to praise Obama so much.
     
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    They did steal furniture worth around 360,000. They returned some and paid for the rest because of the backlash. They also vandalized the White House to a tune of $14,000. They are such classy people...
     
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    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    They took $200k in items they weren't entitled to. They then said they would pay for $86k, and then returned $28k. Spin it however you want, they were low-class thieves and vandals when leaving the WH.
     
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    They did have the China and Furniture they stole from the WH when they left. And they bought the five-bedroom home in Chappaqua, N.Y., for $1.7 million in 1999 and then in December 2000, just as they were leaving the White House, they bought a seven-bedroom house near Embassy Row in Washington, D.C. for $2.85 million.

    Do banks generally make loans for mortgages for nearly 4 million for a first home and a second home to couples that are "dead-broke"?

    She is lying again, She lies a lot. -
     
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    And once again, trying to hijack the thread with a change of subject. No one cares what your "concerns" are regarding the Last Republican. We get it. You hate Republicans. Still not the subject of this thread so if you can't stick to the subject, go away.

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    "Rich people" also do not try to profit by crying in public to any who will listen about how broke they are. What "rich people" understand or do not understand is not the topic of this thread. The topic is the lie that the Clintons told to engender sympathy and promote donations so that they did not have t0 "suffer" as regular people do.

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    And Lesh is caught in another lie. Must be part Clinton.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sure they do, look at Trump and Romney, Rich people will often do anything they can to scam the working class out of their money, look at Trump university, or talk to some of the Contractors Trump hired

    the biggest Con artists are often Conservatives


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    For some reason they needed all the Ws off the keyboards
     
  18. Lesh

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    I posted what actually happened previously. They did not steal furniture

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    Kindly do not call me a liar when I have shown what actually happened.
     
  19. Arjay51

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    Romney and Trump never claimed to be "dead broke" as did Hillary. If you can't see the difference, you are a Hillary worshiper who believes anything she says.

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    What you claim happened. Proof says otherwise but you fail to believe actual facts. Again.

    If they did not take it, why did they return most of it under penalty of law.
     
  20. FreshAir

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    Yeah, The Romneys were really "struggling"

    "Mitt Romney and Ann: the students “struggling” so much that they had to sell stock."

    http://www.samefacts.com/2012/01/ev...ruggling-so-much-that-they-had-to-sell-stock/

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    Clinton scams all the money she can get and she doesn't share. They have been doing this since Arkansas. These people are so FLAWED as not to be believed. Here the Libs are like a good little minions trying to spin for Hills and she doesn't care or appreciate it. They are not important enough to her. Use 'em, then lose 'em.
     
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    How dare you throw out facts! The Lib Sheeple squirm when factual info (as you presented) is given. You keep doing that and they will choke on their own kool-aid.
     
  23. Arjay51

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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    did you read the link?

    "Right after Mitt graduated in 1975, we had our third boy and it was about the time Mitt’s first paycheck came along. So, we were married a long time before we had any income, about five years as struggling students. …"

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    Did you read it? Exiting college and leaving the White House after eight years are two completely different things. If you see no difference, then you have a problem.
     

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