CNN Just Sued The Government To Get The Names And Addresses Of Manafort Jurors

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  1. Steve N

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    CNN reported on it.
     
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    Dirty Donald publicly commenting on case as un-sequestered jury deliberating, sad or sick guy...
     
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    That seems likely.

    I want to hear from the other side: What innocent, benign or positive reason could the media have for requesting this information?
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Below is a copy and paste of the entire story. Can you point out where CNN is mentioned.

    Manafort judge says he has received "threats" and won't release juror names
    From CNN's Katelyn Polantz

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    The judge presiding over the trial of Paul Manafort said he's received "threats" and is not willing to disclose jurors' names and addresses requested by media outlets.

    "I don't feel right if I release their names," Judge T.S. Ellis said.

    Ellis did not disclose details about the threats in a hearing Friday. But he said it was enough to make him wary of making the 12 jurors and four alternates' names public. The jury has not yet reached a verdict and is currently deliberating for the second day.

    "I've received criticism and threats. I'd imagine they would to," he told an attorney representing seven media organizations at a hearing Friday.
    "I had no idea myself this case would arouse such public interest. I still am surprised," Ellis said.

    He added that the US Marshals Service follows him everywhere, even to his hotel — which he presumably stays in when court is in session because he lives outside of Northern Virginia. The jurors don't have that protection, and Ellis even keeps secret the name of his hotel, he said.

    He also noted that making the jurors' names public in such a high-profile case could chill future potential jurors in similarly watched cases from wanting to serve.

    The media attorney, Matthew Kelley from the law firm Ballard Spahr, argued that the appeals court governing the area says juror names should be made public except in special circumstances.
     
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    could they sue the president if they vote guilty and the President is the one attacking them?

    what if one of the jurors has 'security clearance' and the President removes it cause he did not like the verdict?
     
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    That is not the entire story in that link.... If you scroll down to the section titled

    Manafort judge: "A thirsty press is essential in a free country"

    Judge T.S. Ellis said he will hold a hearing after 2 p.m. ET today on a motion by CNN and other media organizations to unseal the names and addresses of jurors, as well as other parts of the trial that are currently secret.
     
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    I will wait for more information cause sounds fishy to me, maybe some of the information they normally get is being denied or something, but the media is never allowed to release Jurors names unless the juror gives them consent

    sometimes like in the Scott Peterson trial some choose to go public
     
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  9. Steve N

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    That's actually a separate story, look at the times they were put on the site. I guess we're both right and both wrong. Cheers
     
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    Fair questions. I honestly didn't know that the press could request such information. I get it, but then again I know I wouldn't want my info exposed as a juror. I'm surprised it isn't set up to where an unbiased 3rd party can learn of a jurors identity in cases where there's a claim being made about a juror (s).
     
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    I wonder if that information is normally released, but in this case the Judge is trying to hide it from the public, the media can speak to Jurors, but only with consent
     
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    the only time I have been selected for jury duty I got out of it, once for weather and other just not picked, so not sure what rules are, but from what saw when watching court tv, it seemed they could talk to them, but only release it if they consented
     
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    harass, intimidate, attack.

    Maxine told them what to do, and here we are.

    If leftists destroy the justice system... too... I'd say all bets are off.
     
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    I hadn't really thought much about the actual issue at hand....I just spotted a number of errors in this thread so I jumped in... Personally, I would agree with the judges ruling that the information shouldn't be released pre-verdict, especially for a non-sequestered jury. We'll see what happens after the verdicts are in
     
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    seems per that article is normal to release the names to the media, but the judge is saying he has received criticism and threats and thinks jury woudl too, I think in this case, I would agree with the judge - regardless of the verdict
     
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    The following question is for all the lefty PF members who say that CNN is NOT fake news and is NOT biased....

    What possible need is there for CNN to have the jurors names?
     
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    After more than 3 hours the only explanations offered up are intimidation of jurors as to get the verdict they want, or payback if they don't.
     
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    Exactly!

    Ever since the 90's, CNN has been nothing but a front for the Democratic party.

    They don't call it the Clinton News Network for nothing.
     
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    Reminder:

    This isn’t the first time CNN has tried to doxx private individuals whose political views or statements offend the network. Last July, the news network threatened to identify a Reddit user who created a GIF of Trump wrestling another man with CNN’s logo superimposed on his face. CNN wrote at the time that it would reveal the individual’s identity publicly if he continued to mock the network.

    In February, CNN showed up on the front lawn at the home of an elderly woman who reportedly unknowingly shared pro-Trump memes on Facebook that were created by a Russian bot factory. A reporter aggressively harangued the befuddled woman, demanding to know why she colluded with Russians to hurt Hillary Clinton’s chances of becoming president.
     
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    That's always a possibility, especially from Paul "Witness Tamperer" Manafort and the Trump goon squad. Since reporters and news agencies don't generally threaten jurors, except in the minds of those with AJDS....
     
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    I guess this about as good a apology that Steve will get, you pretty much called his thread fake news.
     
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    Oh, I know the motion happened.... I just called the thread title fake news, not the thread... "CNN sued the government"??

    Cmon, people at... what was it?.... Oh yeah... TheFederalist.com.... geez....
     
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    What is pointless is your attempts to substantiate the Right Wing Propaganda Machine's lie that juror have some kind of an "automatic God-given law to privacy" which these "Godless commies from the MSM" is attacking America in order to get the "virginal and blessed donut-server Mr. Manafort" (who Mr. Trump swears he never knew except when Manafort gave out donuts or whatever trivial he did!)

    This screed from Mr. Ocean was well presented, though, to seemingly magnify a single law in Texas and six proposed (but not yet even voted on) in states, none of which are Virginia to somehow make it like there was a point to this truely smoldering pile of BS.

    But if you had bothered to ACTUALLY bothered to that source, we would have scene this rather non-smoldering clear and painful truth about the Propaganda Machines effort:

    In fact, the first sentence of Ocean's screed is properly the opposite of this statement!

    There is a universal right for the names and addresses of jurors to be disclosed unless a court specifially limits that right in part or in whole in a particular case. Indeed, some legislatures try to expand those limitations, but it's quite limited and specifically applied.

    And Virginia is NOT Texas, and the only reason the judge is allowed to limit the full public publication of jurors' information over the case is currently ONLY to the current deliberations!

    All the lies and BS over this thread of the "MSM is destroying of the court and juries" is nutcase hysteria from Trumpies and Trump trying to protect Trump and to let Manafort steal money, damage America, and hide the taxes he owes over his $100,000 clothes and yachts and every other way to let this scumbags get away with his trash.

    corporate.findlaw.com/law-library/the-public-s-right-of-access-to-juror-information-loses-more.html
     
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    Dang, TDS may prove fatal for some.

    You might seek some help....
     
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    Does CNN plan to dox the jurors before they even finish deliberating? :omfg: I'd say CNN is definitely the enemy of these 12 people ...
     

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