Colin Powell, military leader and first Black US secretary of state, dies from COVID-19 complication

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have to remember this. General Franks actually asked Colin Powell for his views on going to war with Iraq. Powell told him he was fine with the decision. It was a direct act by Powell which is why he went to the UN saying what he said.
    Bush and Powell acted on the CIA information.
    Powell was not wrong because of the book published by General Georges Sada.

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    I agree with what Trump said. I disagree with when and how he said it. He just says what he believes even when he shouldn't. His social skills are lacking.
     
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    Colin Powell was SoS when the Patriot Act was voted on, he had no vote in the matter.

    https://www.congress.gov/107/chrg/shrg71536/CHRG-107shrg71536.htm
    https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ56/PLAW-107publ56.pdf
     
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    Powell like few politicians if any today, admitted his mistake. He certainly wasn't lauded over the WMD for Iraq, but outside that, he was liked.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Well how many are dying today of Polio ?
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    so? He had an opinion on it. In my view the wrong opinion.
     
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    Duh, we have the polio vaccine and it's given to almost everybody! That's why there are no polio deaths! The virus has been erradicated from the USA since 1979. These days, Polio only exists in Niger, Chad, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. However, because the Covid pandemic disrupted polio vaccination in Africa, a resurgence in other countries is feared.
     
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    LOL, sure. Like getting vaccinated to save one's life?
    Just what will gov't do to all of us because Powell died of covid complications with cancer and parkinsons?
     
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    Interesting. You're suggesting the vaccine he had actually did save his life but his cancer got him due to his weakend immune system.
    You think the vaccine is that good?
     
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    Link or made up?
     
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    Makes sense to me. Your immune system will be like a tightly wound spring!
     
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    I think a lot of people are misty-eyed about Colin Powell because he hated Trump - and that is all they need.
     
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    Well in the last couple of years in his life yeah when he was in agreement with bush the same people hated him.

    Partisan-based praise is probably the least valuable
     
  15. Robert

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    Powell also played a role in what Bush was saying to the public.
    Powell did his own investigation at the CIA as you confirmed with a secondary source. I knew it long ago when reading the excellent book by General Tommy Franks called American Soldier. Franks explains both wars.

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    Powell became an Obamanista when he voted for the Democrat.

    When he talked he alleged he voted for both republicans and also for democrats.
     
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    Do you agree that it has been the media stoking intense fear of CV19?
     
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    Powell was the classic RINO, which to me, is the same as being a bolshevik, no different than democrats, whom all condemn anyone that disagrees with them, as individuals unworthy of having a voice - same as they did to Native Americans and African slaves.

    The paradox is that now, they all use low wage illegal alien workers that won't talk back, to destroy the voting birthright of the people they hate.
     
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    The PAC you dismissed is not a Trump PAC. In fact there is a disclaimer on the Save America PAC site.
     
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    This is the actual statement made by Trump.

    Trump's statement Tuesday echoed his actions after the deaths of other prominent Americans whom the former president considered political foes, including Sen. John McCain, civil rights icon John Lewis and Rep. John Dingell, who was the longest-serving member of Congress.

    Trump criticized Powell's record on the Iraq War and derided the news media for treating the former secretary of state "so beautifully" after his death.

    "Hope that happens to me someday," Trump said.

    "He made plenty of mistakes, but anyway, may he rest in peace!" he said.


    Below is my comment.
    Colin Powell carried us to the war in Iraq when he went to the UN.
    He got both correct and wrong information from this nations own CIA.
     
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    He would more accurately be stated to be an independent and not a D or a R. Powell did work for Republicans but like others in his ilk, really were not really a one party person which means RINO or DINO fits Powell.
     
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    Slaves in many ways got better treatment. For instance the slaves lived among the very rich. They had shelter free of charge. They had food free of charge. They were clothed free of charge. They were not all field hands. Some worked in the Mansions and of course had it better than the field hands.

    America's natives were in cases chased and gunned down and Abe Lincoln hung a large number on the same day on the same gallows.
     
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    Are you blaming the citizens who purchased homes for a recession? Only citizens can cause prices of homes to go higher or lower.
    The economy slowed a pace. But it also had heated earlier a pace too.

    Powell was of mixed mind. He was confused to vote at times for Democrats and also Republicans.
     
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    A 4 star General is hardly held back. Powell was a trained killer or conqueror. I read up on him and other than as a low ranking officer in Vietnam, really had not led troops in combat. He was a paper type General.

    Powell served 2 times in Vietnam. First as an advisor to the Vietnamese. Later he returned as a Major and his fame was he found no wrong doing at My Lai where a Lt was court Martialed for killing villagers.
    https://www.biography.com/political-figure/colin-powell

    Generals are commanding a number of races and the military has long outlawed racism. Still Powell did vote for Obama.
     
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    No, absolutely not. If anything, the public is not aware of how dangerous this virus is. People tend to only pay attention to the relatively low case-fatality rate, without realizing the very high number of sequelae left behind by the virus among survivors. I recently posted a study that found more than 50% of survivors with at least one major chronic symptom of organ damage.
     

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