Colin Powell, military leader and first Black US secretary of state, dies from COVID-19 complication

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  1. The Last American

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    Only the worst of humanity rises to the top.
     
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    It was sheer idiocy to believe this! And we were WARNED for months in advance by at least two very professional intelligence agencies based in Europe that Saddam did not have any "weapons of mass destruction" at all -- that it was all bullshit concocted to keep the Iranians from launching a new war with Iraq. But, Idiot Bush, the Idiot-in-Chief, was starved for some 'good-press' in the lingering unease after '9/11' -- so, he authorized, WITH THE PERMISSION OF CONGRESS -- MOST DEMOCRATS INCLUDED, the big American adventure against Saddam....

    Powell? Go-along-to-get-along Powell was no better, and, probably no worse than anyone else that pretended to be 'intelligent' among the 'intelligence agencies' in the U. S.
     
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    I have never claimed to be a stock broker. I am a licensed in CA Real Estate Broker but since I moved to Idaho, my CA license is not acceptable here or in CA. Brokers must have an office in the state they are Brokers in.
    I was helping my son last year when he made a killing in stocks by guiding him to trade in Boeing and he did well.

    I will not allege to be an expert in the stock market.
    My understanding of stocks only goes to firms I know what is going on with them.
    I knew Boeing was close to being back on the market with the 757 Max and knew it was actually a hell of a good airplane. And would go back to being in high demand.

    He could toss hundreds of thousands of dollars at the stock market and would make a fast profit over long term staying in.

    I have had stock brokers as clients in my past. I really figured they were more like new car sales types.

    Now, I am positive that a good many stock brokers are really experts.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He was man enough to admit that the presentation of WMDs that he gave was the darkest moment of his career. That presentation was made to sell the war as a "must have" to not only the US Congress but also the rest of the world. The "W" admin gave him fabricated intel for the presentation.
     
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    I urge all of the Bush haters to use youtube and actually listen this time to what Bush was saying. Do not accept the media claims.
    We all are victims of our own media.
    Bush was careful to say Saddam was a Gathering danger. WMD alone was not his reason. Bush believes even now that Saddam had to be out of Iraq. Bush told him to get out of Iraq.

    Saddam was not smart enough to realize our military is super duper good.

    The media tried to present it as WMD and until General Georges Sada exposed Saddam, he could have got away saying he had none. But his WMD was sent to Syria just ahead of our invasion.

    I urge all who are trying to recall, how Saddam set up things so the inspections were done when and where he wanted them done. Saddam was like a magician in how he hid the hankie or coin so to say.

    It was his country and he ran it his way.
     
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    This source is especially credible when it comes to the treatment of slaves in the Old South:

    "The victims of southern slavery we're often happy; had usually adequate food for their health, and shelter sufficient for a mild climate. The Southerners could say with some justification that when the mass of their field hands we're compared with the worst class of laborers in the slums of New York and Philadelphia, and the factory towns of New England, the black slaves were as well-off and in some particulars better off."
    BLACK RECONSTRUCTION IN AMERICA 1860- 1880, W.E.B. Dubois, introduction by David Levering Lewis, the Free Press new York 1998. Page 9. (emphasis mine)

    Dubois goes on to demonstrate that even though this inconvenient truth is seldom acknowledged the slave system was a horrific violation of fundamental human rights, and that popular descriptions of the sadistic excesses of some of the masters and overseers fail to convey the true level of cruelty and terror required for the institution to function.
     
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    George Tenet ran the CIA and Clinton appointed him as head. Tenet was the source of the claims by Powell. He also was GW Bush's source.
     
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    Who knows. Lot of people thought the market would crash when Biden won the election, so they moved their money out of the market, but the opposite happened. The market is up nearly 20%, so people are missing out on lots of gains.
     
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    I'm suggesting nothing of the sort. He died, remember?

    Correct. He died of cancer, not of COVID. His COVID vaccine did not work.

    No.
     
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    LOL. US Intelligence said "“We’ve struggled to estimate the unknowns. ... We range from 0% to about 75% knowledge on various aspects of their program.”

    So, there was no evidence, so the admin made it look like the scraps of evidence was water-tight evidence, which of course was lie.

    That war was a massive mistake, and there is no way around that fact.
     
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    YES, that is the way it was. I do not claim Slavery was wonderful and we all would do better as slaves, I simply want what you said to be learned at schools.

    I wonder who believes that when slaves were booted off the masters land, that the slave met a new employer happy to put him to work? The whiners do not get it that off the land they were not worth a hill of beans once freed. And could they compete in business?

    Your book will join my library.

    Thank you so much

    """This pioneering work was the first full-length study of the role black Americans played in the crucial period after the Civil War, when the slaves had been freed and the attempt was made to reconstruct American society.

    Hailed at the time, Black Reconstruction in America has justly been called a classic."""

    I now have the book in my library.
     
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    Until Biden lost Afghanistan, I still maintain that was was fought the best way possible and should have been done so the Afghanis would not end up losing. (Franks the General in charge used the Afghan forces to beat the Taliban)
    We are far better off with Saddam gone so do not tell me he was the best for Iraq.
    Tenet persuaded both Bush and Colin Powell the WMD was there.
    General Sada of Iraq explained how Saddam played hide and seek with the WMD that he did have up to days ahead of the invasion of the forces of the USA and others.

    Other nations also invaded Iraq and not just the USA.
     
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    LOL and who is this US Intelligence?

    When you have read the many books I have read, then you can talk up.

    There is no way in hell Bush or Powell could know 100 percent of what Saddam was up to.
    But Saddam was a lot smarter then given credit for. He sent his WMD to his pal in Syria.
     
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    No, he said there was not enough evidence, but the Bush admin didn't need the evidence, when they had already decided they were going to start a way with, or without evidence. In the end they decided on lying about it in order to get Congress to OK the war.

    If there was no way of knowing they why did they lie and say there was evidence?

    It was shameful, and Powell was man enough to admit it. The rest (Rumsfeld, Cheney etc).....not so much.
     
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    Despite what Democrats think of Biden, he is not GOD. The market did not crash because they had a hope Biden might turn out different than he has. Biden sucks. Write it down. When he leaves office, it will be in shame.
     
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    That is totally wrong. Not one word is accurate. Tenet told Bush to his face he was positive Saddam has WMD.

    What a lot of Americans fail to understand is that Saddam was a super evil man and had to be removed from office. With no WMD at all he had to be removed. He had caused too much trouble for years.

    Both in the Senate and the House are actual experts who understood how dangerous Saddam was to the world. And they already saw the evidence ahead of Powell going to the CIA for 2 full weeks to verify it for himself. And Powell and Bush trusted George Tenet.
     
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    Of course he is not, and nor have I ever heard anyone call him that.

    You are welcome to your opinion about him. I am not a big fan either, but I suppose I'd be bitter too if I had pulled my investments thinking the market was going to crash, but instead it gained 20%. Despite of what your messiah told you in the past 4 years, presidents don't control the stock market. Same happened when Obama won. People pulled their money out in the worst possible time (after great recession) and invested their money in canned food and ammo. The rest of us picked up dirt cheap stocks and watched the market triple in value.

    DOW hit all time record today.

    You can repeat it until your face turns blue, but it won't make it true.

    Have a nice day.
     
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    The reason Powell went to the CIA was to verify. And he told Bush it was true that Saddam has WMD.

    Read this book to learn what Saddam did with his WMD.
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    Saddam wanted to destroy Israel. And Bush and Powell did not want that.
     
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    I would say it was by 1968 that I understood the Stock market is not controlled by the president. I had been for years a very loyal Democrat but did check that out a long long time back.
    My son has still made money this year. Despite the fumbling Biden.

    I do not mess with the Stock market myself.

    I think you exaggerate the gains since Biden who as you admit has nothing to do with the Stock market.
     
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    Here is another nugget about that era.

    Abraham Lincolns great scheme was to deport the blacks to Central America, a country in Africa and some back into the Caribbean Islands. But he wanted them out of this country.
     
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    And to you as well.
    Can you produce one quote by Trump alleging he was in charge of the stock market?

    People made billions in profits when Trump was president.
     
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    Because he knew there would be racists in this Country for a few hundred years.

    Give it up already.
     
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    I may be able to tell you the day Tenet told Bush that he was positive Saddam has WMD.

    But it was ahead of the attack.

    I wish more Americans gave our military forces credit for how fast they took out Saddam to the point he ended up hanging like a war criminal as he was.
     
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    Defined in your own terms Abe Lincoln was a racist. Trump never has been but Abe sure was.
     
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    Yes, he died of cancer according to you. And not covid because, he was vaccinated. At least according to you. Covid wasn't a factor. Cancer is.
     

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