College Grads Buried in Student Loan Debt, but Unwilling to Give Up Luxuries

How easy we had it hah.. Going by your post I've been working longer then you have been alive.

 

And? The point of the post was to point out the very different life trajectories. Sorry, but it was much easier to climb the ladder and get a good job in those days--it is indisputable. It's also indisputable that the older generations erected a bunch of the nonsense that is screwing us currently.

 

Utter nonsense and typical woe is me crap.

 

Much easier then most of Gen X and Millenials have had it. It's BS to assert otherwise. You have the manufacturing base, industry, etc, to start out in.

Gerrymandering and BS policy decisions led to those jobs leaving the US, gutting our young men of their opportunity to start in the work force, and have meaningful employment.

It's all evidenced by the number of kids living at home, well past college. They can't afford the astronomical rent, and sundry other challenges.

 

Evidence you have no idea what Gerrymandering is. Not only that but it was the want of "cheap" or "free" things that led to those jobs going over seas... Sound familiar?

 

Your generation had it easier than any generation in the history of the world. You guys don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to the issues we deal with. All of your proposed solutions are nonsense and only worked when everything was affordable.

 

Ohhh don't even try to go there. So you guys made out like bandits, then decided to start preying on your own generation before you sniped off the younger people? My god...That is pretty much how it all went down, huh?

 

I was against things like NAFTA and granting MF trade status to China. ( The country you want to move to)

Where were you? Watching 10 hours a day of MTV?

Do you think listing drinking heavily and wanting to move to China helps your credibility with the woe is me crap?

 

Oh, so the manipulation of the republican party and their electorate by the job creators to favor their policies and tax benefits, free trade arrangements to lower their costs, doesn't fit the bill as gerrymandering? Do you know what the definition of gerrymandering is?

Evidence you didn't bother thinking before posting.

 

Don't even bother addressing the points made. Just sling agitprop and hope something sticks to the wall, huh?

The baby boomer generation supported Nafta, passed nafta, passed sordid and sundry free trade agreements that enabled massive corporate entities at the expense of small business and the public.

The baby boomers where and still are the guys running the businesses that supported this nonsense.

Not Gen X. Not Millenials. We're living with the caustic reverberations of decades of (*)(*)(*)(*) policy, instituted by a (*)(*)(*)(*) generation that wasted the entirety of the riches of those in the greatest generation. Then, despite being the goons who supported, promoted and instituted the (*)(*)(*)(*) policy, these same folks blameshift it to younger generations for being "lazy" despite the fact the system is rigged from the outset.

Everything is designed to syphon monies to the crony capitalists and (*)(*)(*)(*) policy makers and their beneficiaries, from college education, to health care, etc. All the while, despite decades of inflation and market contraction, the same guys who instituted this (*)(*)(*)(*), have to blameshift to keep the heist going.

It's a joke and a shame.

 

Gerrymandering is done by both parties.

Both parties are propped up by the very things you despise

Both parties are for more and more "trade" agreements.. Wake the hell up.

 

Too young to understand what was happening, so I was probably outside playing.

China offers me more prospects than America. Most don't want to believe that, but for many, it is better to move to another country to get one's start. As for drinking, it's about the only thing I have to enjoy in this country.

 

I was against NAFTA did you not read that.. Again BOTH parties supported NAFTA. There were a few voices like Ross Perot who were against it and your generation would label him "racist" and "spreading hate".

We just passed a Trade Agreement.. Know who supported it?

Wake up man you rant about the past generations but you guys SUPPORT people TODAY who want to worsen the situation.. Meanwhile you scream and protest while saying others are spreading "hate" and then retreat to your "safe spaces"..

 

I agree with you. It is done by both parties. Hence why I support sanders and not trump. Trump is pro-free trade. Sanders is not. And neither am I.

Both parties are arsonist scum. This country has handed them the matches for too long.

Time to hand them a fire extinguisher, and a massive bill for all the wealth they've managed to destroy.

 

So you are against companies moving there but you see no issue doing it yourself.. Got you.... Complain about something and then take advantage of what you complain about sounds about right

 

We need to light this damn thing on fire and watch both parties implode.

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We need to light this damn thing on fire and watch both parties implode.

 

Lol @ safe places. Are you kidding me?

Sanders didn't vote for the TPP. He voted against it. I don't support Obama, if that's who you're talking about. He's been a bad president since the outset.

 

What? I am emigrating out, which will actually help Americans here. I'm not going over there to lower a corporation's bottom line, but to teach kids how to read.

 

In the entertainment, marketing, media sector, which I know, millennials can't say &$(#(@)( about how much harder they have it. Tech is SOOOOOOOOO cheap now, you can graduate highschool with enough knowledge to be up and rolling on day 1. I'm amazed with how little some kids know coming out of college for which there are no excuses. I would have KILLED for the tools that people have now. What was I using...tape to tape VCRs to edit my movies. NO INTERNET. No editing software. Lousy cameras. You couldn't afford anything decent in the 80s-90s. So much information is at your disposal now. YOUTUBE and VIMEO!!! Holy crap!! Teenagers can be near millionaires from their bedrooms. Rare to be that big, but you can get by and create in your own house. That was IMPOSSIBLE before. Sure, there are expenses now that didn't exist, like cell phones. But that's about it. We still needed phones lines, cable and in my case at graduation, dial up...not really any cheaper than now. You can toss the hard line and cable and only pay internet and probably come out cheaper on basic expenses than I did. Cars are no more expensive. Buy a used one for $5-8K that can get your around instead of leasing a $30K Fiat or Mini...how about that?

The major disadvantages I see are simply attitude and what graduates think they're owed. Interviewed someone the other day and one of their first question was about benefits....WTF? I want to know about YOU and what YOU can offer us, not what we can do for you. There's 10 of you, I'll be speaking to that day=) That can come after the interview or on a follow up, or simply look at our website first...perhaps, maybe? Geeze, that was infuriating and sadly, not uncommon.

 

I agree with him on Free trade... I dont agree with him on Foreign policy nor social issues.

Sanders should have worked on many issues with people like Tom Coburn, Ron Paul and Rand Paul but when it came time to vote he stuck by the status quo and his party and i would expect him to do the same if elected.

 

Voting for Sanders will not accomplish that.

 

Okay, so tech is helpful in your field...That's great. The problem is that the issue you brought up is a tiny fraction of the problems we face that you simply didn't.

Personally, I don't interview that way, but I'm not surprised if that is the attitude. After all, the expectations were laid down by you guys! You guys were the ones getting all of the incredible opportunities while our generation gets a job at Starbucks.

Enough with the arguments about gadgets. People care about being able to see doctors, get schooling, drive to work, and rent a home. Trying to distract us with TV's and phones isn't going to cut it. The older generations are Responsible for much of what is happening now--period. Hard to be motivated walking into college and the job market these days. Adjusting for inflation, everything that matters was cheaper, and job opportunities were way better. The culture also wasn't in the complete (*)(*)(*)(*)ter.

I just love how everything is our fault. What a joke.

 

Not true. And if you look at his voting record, you'd be proven wrong. Sanders voted against Nafta, TPP, Iraq, and sordid other things democrats propose. He's also nowhere near liberal on the 2nd amendment and knows how to work both sides of the aisle.

Something scumbag Hillary has not and will never do.

 

I'm Gen X, so my generation didn't cause much of anything, besides the tech boom=) Baby Boomers are the main culprits of what's going on now.

Paying $100+K for a psychology degree or choose your "useless" Studies degree is nothing but YOUR fault. College is too expensive, no doubt, which is why I locked in my kids prices a few years after the were each born, to insulate me from what's coming in another 15 yrs. Where I work, which includes a lot more than just media, we're hiring young people all the time. I don't know how many people HR is burning through to get to the good ones, but we're hiring.

Regarding culture, many would probably think what I grew up in the 80s was horrible, where everyone was racist and a bigot and PC didn't exist yet. Bullying was expected. Kids walking around with BB guns, bows and arrows and real .22 rifles in the front yards was the norm and the cops didn't say anything. They shot WITH us to make sure we were doing it right=) Try that now!!! All the Moms stayed home for the most part...OH THE HUMANITY, what misogynists we all were. Saying Merry Christmas was the norm. Happy Holidays wasn't really invented yet=) Gay people were ridiculed and laughed at and using the F word wasn't all that frowned upon. People thought they spread AIDS after all..../wall. No one wore helmets and kids could run around without cell phones, since parents knew they were somewhere close by. You could smack your kids around too without going to jail by the way.

Hehe...there were trade offs.

 

Same here, Gen X, and I recall running around the 'hood with no cell phone and no tracking devices, I remember it quite fondly. It's sad to me that technology has sort of diminished the value of social interaction.

And I totally agree with the baby boomer comment. They are -absolutely without a doubt- to blame for the mess we're in.