Comey confirms FBI probe into Trump-Russia collusion

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  1. Silver Surfer

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    Trump had every right to criticise them. They stopped doing their jobs and became politicised. Security agencies are paid to make sure Americans are safe, not to serve the interest of one political party. Also the recent wikileaks disclosure proved that some of them acted outside the law. Do you approve of rogue elements within security agencies?
     
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    Banging your head is not going to result in your posts making any more sense. But keep trying. At the time was Jan 20. Guess what todays date is and the investigation is still continuing.
     
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    Most Repubs already know the truth, only a few Neo Cons which really are Demos in drag. Don't mean a whole lot.


    Why the Russia Story Is a Minefield for Democrats and the Media.....


    Russia scandals have bloodied the Trump administration. But it carries dangers for those reporting it.



    Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper appeared on Meet the Press this past weekend to discuss the Trump-Russia scandal. Chuck Todd asked: Were there improper contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials?


    JAMES CLAPPER: We did not include any evidence in our report, and I say, "our," that's N.S.A., F.B.I. and C.I.A., with my office, the Director of National Intelligence, that had anything, that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was no evidence of that…


    CHUCK TODD: I understand that. But does it exist?


    JAMES CLAPPER:
    Not to my knowledge.


    This is the former Director of National Intelligence telling all of us that as of 12:01 a.m. on January 20th, when he left government, the intelligence agencies had no evidence of collusion between Donald Trump's campaign and the government of Vladimir Putin's Russia.


    Virtually all of the explosive breaking news stories on the Trump-Russia front dating back months contain some version of this same disclaimer.


    And yet, this is an extraordinarily complex tale that derives much of its power from suppositions and assumptions.

    There are inevitably uses of phrases like "so far," "to date" and "as yet." These make visible the outline of a future story that isn't currently reportable, further heightening expectations.


    Similarly, Democrats in congress have been littering their Russia speeches with caveats like, "We do not know all the facts," and, "More information may well surface." They repeatedly refer to what they don't know as a way of talking about what they hope to find out......snip~

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...minefield-for-democrats-and-the-media-w471074


    You know its getting bad for the lefties of the leftness when Rolling Stone Mag is out telling them, just like it is.
     
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    Acting like your confused only doubles down on how much of an illiberal you are, and that English words confuse you easily.

    Did you want to try the crystal ball tactic or the Ouija board tactic now?
     
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    Wait a minute.... If the FBI was actually investigating the Trump Team since last July, wouldn't they have wire tapped the Trump Tower?
     
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    The POS swindler should never have even been allowed to become the nominee once he had to reach a settlement with the people he stole from at his bogus university. Do you really believe that the power hungry and greedy corporate owned GOP gave a rat's butt who they ran as long as they had The White House? Give me a break!
     
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    This shouldn't be so hard to figure out even for those with dense grey matter that has trouble filtering.

    Goes like this....if they would have caught Trump in a treason act then they would have had the evidence and immediately produced it. Wherein he would have been impeached. That they didn't have the evidence. Again, should be a major clue. Even with those that have trouble understanding easy English words.
     
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    Yes! And he didn't point the finger to anyone. . .Not CNN. . .and not Fox News!

    So. . .what is your point?
     
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    Trump supported leaks before he was against them.
     
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    That's a clever catch. How could any of the information been gotten except by surveillance? I think they're hiding through a play-with-words. But the nefariousness probably is across many players.
     
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    Then. . .if they have found NOTHING, why are they STILL investigating?

    For exemple. . .they had NO PROBLEM confirming that there was ZERO evidence that President Obama (or anyone in the Obama administration) wire tapped Trump's phone or Trump tower, END OF THAT INVESTIGATION! DUH!
     
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    I didn't ask you any questions about Trump. I asked you a direct question. Do you approve of rogue elements within the U.S intelligence services? Do you believe in accountability and transparency?
     
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    Kind of like the POS Hillary.....Corrupt and incompetent. Obviously the Repubs cared.....as they didn't try and hand him the WH. Like the Demos and the leftness did with Hillary.
     
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    If you actually understood the meaning of immediatly perhaps your post might not be so silly. And it would be really hilarious for us if you would explain how Trump was going to be impeached before he took office.
     
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    No, the Left is back to loving the truth, that they never left from. So, all you Trump supporters who said Trump was telling the truth about the wiretap, want to tell us how you plan on fixing (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)?
     
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    First perhaps you will explain how transparency applies to the Security Agencies whose work generally tends to be classified.
     
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    Why isn't Comey listening to the DNI, NSA, and CIA.....those who would have known long before the FBI knew anything.

    So now you can't figure out what a Political witchhunt is started by butt-hurtin Demos who can't face the facts why their Hillary lost the election? Duh!!!!!
     
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    Oh my God, look, Bill Clinton not in public office making money off of speaking fees while no one proved Hillary benefited from those speaking fees.
     
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    Trump lied about the wiretaps, but it revealed the essence that there is a mole inside of our government. Likely, a Liberal-leaning mole. And now they(and reporters) know they committed a felony. We also know that Lynch had access to that same information. There's a lot of people Congress needs to talk to.
     
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    Prove that now with links or you are just fabricating that story?
     
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    Yes it does. That mole's name is Trump.
    Remember, this has been an ongoing investigation as of March, 20th ,2017, proving Lynch is guilty of nothing because it is an ongoing investigation.So your comment about Lynch is false.
     
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    You mean that Flynn spoke with the Russian ambassador? No surprise at all, obama spoke with many foreign leaders during his 2008 campaign.

    Or do you mean that Flynn "undermined" obama's expulsion of Russians? Duh, everyone knew obama was on the way out and the new admin would have a different policy, and that obama was worse than a lame duck, only a moron would think that obama's policy carried any weight. Every time there is a new President, in that gap between the election and swearing in, nations adapt their policies to the new admin.

    In fact, Bush 43 was man enough to adopt obama policies during that period.

    Or do you mean that Flynn maybe misled Pence? If Trump does not trust Flynn, then Flynn should be fired. But it seems Trump and Pence already knew about Flynn's conversation with the Russian ambassador, so this is just far left loony media excitement over nothing.

    Conclusion: the Flynn leaks were clearly done by "progressives" inside the US govt, with the intent of causing political harm to the anti-"progressive" new govt, they could just as easily been given privately to Trump as Trump was the one affected - but Trump already knew, so there was nothing to accomplish there.. The DNC hack and leaks were to expose the truth which was being hidden from the US people. Game set and match to the WikiLeaks hack and leak.
     
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    Who authorised Lamgley boys to come up with their own NSA? Neither congress nor senate knew about them. Not even the 'real' NSA. No accountability, no transparency. Do you approve of rogue elements within the U.S security intelligence services?

    Also, if I recall well Brennan boys were caught spying on senate members, the very same people who are supposed to check on them. A fact. Don't make me post a link again.
     
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    Prove what with links.....Comey already proved her negligence and Chaffetz has already put in for the FBI to Investigate her for Perjury. For lying under Oath. That would be corrupt.

    So try a better tactic with something that actually works for you lefties.
     
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    I'm talking about the fact that it ended up he was lying and had talked to Russia specifically about the penalties for the hacking, a contact which he initially denied and then was fired over and which the Trump WH has been panicking over as a devastating leak. Just seeing if you are selective about your glee for transparency and for whistle blowers. If you like both, good. If, like many on the right, you are selective, not so good.
     
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