Concealed carry body count surpasses 1,000

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  1. Xenamnes

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    The obvious question of "so what?" mus be asked with regard to the above. What ultimate, meaningful difference is made by such, that has any bearing on the discussion?

    As opposed to the murderers, serial killers, and drug dealers that you admit the general public of the united states is full of?

    Which ultimately means nothing. It is not the job of the public to save lives and prevent crimes from being committed. They are not employed for such purposes, they are not authorized to use deadly force as a first response. They are simply protecting themselves.

    Demonstrate such to be factually accurate.

    As does the possession and use of alcoholic beverages, illicit narcotic substances, and criminal records.
     
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    Even when it can be proven that someone intentionally trafficked firearms to prohibited individuals, they are rarely ever prosecuted to any meaningful degree. An individual in the state of Illinois knowingly trafficked four firearms to prohibited individuals, one of which was used to murder a police officer. Her sentence was one year of probation, fifteen days of community service, and the possibility of losing her firearm owner identification card.

    Prove that the person selling the firearm was not only a legal firearms owner, but also possessed a concealed carry permit.

    If they wish to end their own existence, what is it to yourself? That is their decision to make.

    Michael Bloomberg's investigations were committed illegally, and he was rebuked by the ATF for potentially interfering with ongoing investigations of its own. He did not carry out his investigations in accordance and cooperation with the states he sent his investigators to.
     
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    You're someone to talk about "delusions" when you actually stated that "criminals comply with gun laws". Sweet, merciful crap!
     
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    Simple answer: it's doing no harm whatsoever, and plenty of good.
     
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    No, owning a gun does NOT "increase your chances of committing suicide." Jesus, do you even know what a fact IS?

    The best method for self-defense against murderous assault in most situations is by the skilled use of a firearm.. Period.
     
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    that scumbag propaganda disinformation center confused a FOID card with a CCW with the guy who used an SKS to shoot the Congressman
     
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    Plenty of evidence on hand.
    Start calling issuing law enforcement departments and ask that question.
    You will not like the answer you get.

    People with concealed carry save many lives every day.
    Ask the F.B.I. they will give you the same answer.
     
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    Sometimes their own lives, sometimes the lives of others.
     
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    Unfortunately Aussies now have to come to the US to be shot, by police.
     
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    Example. It doesn't matter that he has a permit because Cummins does not allow weapons on it's campus.

     
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    Tell me what CCW has to do with this?
     
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    Death by car crash. LOL
     
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    CCW from Missouri, not recognized in Illinois.
     
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    CCW doesn't apply to shotguns.
     
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    Cali, the CCW applies only to his job, not civilian carry.

     
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    Nor would any have been valid in Washington, DC.
     
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    The left wing VPC desperate to make CCW appear as dangerous as possible to push their anti-gun agenda.
     
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    the Vile Pile of crap is amongst most dishonest prevaricating propaganda machines in the USA
     
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    How many of those involved concealed weapons? Also, please find credible sources. You quoting a VPC source is like my using an NRA source. Not a very objective source at all.
     
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    there is absolutely no comparison between the NRA and the Vile propaganda center. The VPC is well known for lying. the argument against the NRA is its claim that those who want more and more gun restrictions want complete gun bans. Some do, and some only will want them down the road.
     
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    Please, for the love of God, move to Australia where the evil, legal gun owners can't get you.
     
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    And here we have why gun banners won't win: they must lie and twist reality itself into knots to even get close to proving their point.

    Even with all their lying on this issue, and scraping every conceivable "CCW killer" story they can find out of the bottom of the barrel, they can't even make their case.
     
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    And Washington D.C. does not consider
    C.C.W. from other States to be valid in
    Washington D.C.
    The State of Washington C.C. does not count
    In Washington D.C.
    LoL !!!!!
     
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    VPC as a source? really?
     
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    it's called a criminal discount...any attempt to require criminals to get a permit (just like voter ID)would be challenged as an attempt interfere with their civil liberties
     

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