Conclusive proof that it is Trump's policy to separate children from their families at the border

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  1. Zorro

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    Uhhh you are pointing fingers?

    We need to announce an end to any immigration requests not processed in a controlled environment through our embassy. This free for all with the Rape Routes being advocated by the Open Borders Left is dangerous and deadly.

    The entirety of the epidemic-level increase in both drugs and MS-13 began, under Obama, around 2014-2015 with the rise of UACs (Unaccompanied Children) and the collapse of interior enforcement against criminal alien drug trafficking networks operating in our major cities. That was all precipitated by the rise of the “dreamer” political movement incentivizing people to come here as children or to bring children here to gain admission through catch-and-release.

    https://www.conservativereview.com/news/the-immorality-of-the-open-borders-left/
     
  2. truth and justice

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    Yea, because you need highest security prisons as they are all rapists, murderers and drug dealers, some I presume, though I'm not convinced, are good people!
     
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  3. Your Best Friend

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    Make sure to let the human traffickers that prey on illegal children walk away with all the victims they want (under the guise of being a parent or relative) and slip into Mexico never to be heard from again. That's a caring thing to do.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    You are 100% correct again.

    When they come from Central America, theyre not refugees.
     
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    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    Obama lit the dynamite and now it blows up in Trump's face. And the neo Stalinist left is trying to exploit this issue for political gain.
     
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    That must change

    Let them apply for a visa in their home country

    Otherwise they should get booted out within 72 hours with no exceptions
     
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    Interesting. Thanks for the info. Yeah I can't imagine bail for illegals would be a good idea as they likely wouldn't come back.
     
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    They dont come back, they dont show up for trial etc.
     
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    If Trump fancies himself a tough negotiator let him
    demand that Mexico stop allowing tens of thousands of Central Americans to pass unopposed through the entirety of Mexico
    so they can swarm the US border.
    Mexico remains the source of a huge amount of our illegal immigration problems.
     
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    Which is why I understand the hesitance to do so. Bail is revoked for flight risk individuals so this is the same.
     
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    Let's try that again. You said "where THEY are now." Who is they? And where are they "now?" The kids are in the system and the parents are in detention, so that's two different places.
     
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    We don't know until we can vet them do we. Should they be placed with children while we do?
     
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    I can't be bothered to explain a simple sentence to you
     
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    Sorry, do you not acknowledge that the kids are in the system and the parents are in detention?
     
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    When parents make an asylum plea, where are the kids before the 20 days expire?

    So why doesn't Congress do it?
     
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    If they fix it, there goes votes on both sides of the asile. If they don't fix it, they can say "we tried to come up with a deal that would appease everyone blah, blah blah" and kick the can down the road. It's DC Politics 101.
     
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    By a large margin most unaccompanied children separated themselves from their own parents when they showed up at the border
    trying to beg their way in. Who is responsible for that?

    !0,000 kids held by Trump. 25,000 unaccompanied children held under Obama in 2014.
     
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    BS.
    1. Obama did not do what they are doing now
    2. I DON'T CARE who does it, its wrong

    You are making this a political issue, when its a human rights issue.
     
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    OK. How many children will be rendered homeless from their parents committing other crimes in the US during the next few months?

    What is your proposed solution other than the current one?
     
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    There's a difference. In a lot of cases with US Citizens there are spouses and extended family members who take custody of minors. In the case of this Trump Cluster it will be 20,000 children the government has direct custody of.
     
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    End the asylum loophole and the illegal alien family can stay together - in mexico
     
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    Obama did precisely what is still being done. But were it a human rights issue, it was for Obama's two terms. Why all the noise today? And those children are fed balanced meals and this is by far not the worst treatment. They were forced by adults to a few thousand mile march to the border and we captured them. Were they smart, they would show up at a port of entry and sign in. Then they will be verified as needing asylum.
     
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    Except the US is a signatory on International Human Rights Treaties that specify we must hear Asylum Pleas.

    We stop doing this weekend abandoned our position of leadership and we break treaties.
     
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    There is no treaty that states we have to take in all who claim asylum.
     
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    Whataboutism doesn't clear a Clusterfuck happening now.
     

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