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  1. dagosa

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    you obviously don’t know what “ recommends “ means.
    Background
    SARS-CoV-2 infection is transmitted predominately by inhalation of respiratory droplets generated when people cough, sneeze, sing, talk, or breathe. CDC recommends community use of masks, specifically non-valved multi-layer cloth masks, to prevent transmission of SARS-CoV-2. Masks are primarily intended to reduce the emission of virus-laden droplets (“source control”), which is especially relevant for asymptomatic or presymptomatic infected wearers who feel well and may be unaware of their infectiousness to others, and who are estimated to account for more than 50% of transmissions.1,2 Masks also help reduce inhalation of these droplets by the wearer (“filtration for wearer protection”). The community benefit of masking for SARS-CoV-2 control is due to the combination of these effects; individual prevention benefit increases with increasing numbers of people using masks consistently and correctly.
     
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    Deniers are hilarious. They pretend to be experts on mask wearing, when they don’t even wear a mask unless forced to by a business.
     
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    I just did. The cdc recommends multilayer cloth masks.

    Ha ha.
    In the same paragraph you “quoted the cdc “ then say you’re not interested in their “ opinion. “

    This is the post of a mad man. Tell us you have ever worn an n95 mask.
     
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    Sure. The cdc uses science in every decision they make. Just go to their website and ask for their studies.
     
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    CDC use only politically correct studies when they make decision.

    They do not use studies they do not like.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33087517/
    Effectiveness of Face Masks in Preventing Airborne Transmission of SARS-CoV-2

    Guidelines from the CDC and the WHO recommend the wearing of face masks to prevent the spread of coronavirus (CoV) disease 2019 (COVID-19); however, the protective efficiency of such masks against airborne transmission of infectious severe acute respiratory syndrome CoV-2 (SARS-CoV-2) droplets/aerosols is unknown.
     
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    Why don’t you recommend a diver face mask and scuba tank ?
     
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    I see you’re going backwards. Maybe a study from 1620 will be next.
     
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    Have you ever worn an n95 ? Have you ever seen anyone outside of a medical worker wearing one ? You’re with Tucker.
     
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    This is not a peer reviewed study. This is opinion. Not interested.
     
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    The CDC opinion is not evidence. You need to come up with peer reviewed studies like I’ve presented.

    The CDC can be correct on some issues and incorrect on others. Just like you. You have posted correct information on PF. Here you are not. See? Simple.
     
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    Not on this one. Sorry. No studies exist to support your opinion. If they did you could post them.
     
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    Yes. I have a bunch in a drawer. I’ve worn one a handful of times during the pandemic. I’ve owned N95 masks and worn them intermittently for years. As I’ve told you I have been self quarantined for 90% of the pandemic. I have little use for a mask. I’ve also been posting links on PF and in PM for over a year to low priced sources the CDC and others told you not to buy.

    Why did Fauci, the CDC and others spend so much time telling people to NOT wear something people wouldn’t wear anyway? Ever consider that?
     
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    Sadly you are correct.
     
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    Only on Fix News
     
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    Wrong again.
    I suppose you think every research facility
    that supplies the date for the cdc does too. The right is filled with lunacy. All you have to do is ask the cdc.
     
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    Is that your source? LOL
     
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    Just post a study my friend. Should be easy if the empirical evidence supports your claims. Go ahead.
     
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    https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

    141 references containing case studies for this one article on mask wearing. Everyone uses case studies directly related to covid.
    Everyone supports the general position of the cdc.
     
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    btw, I’m not your friend. My friends aren’t Tucker munchkins. .
     
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    Did you read your link? Here is a quote from it.
    There are not 141 studies related to Covid in your link. There are a lot on influenza. And remember you don’t accept evidence from influenza studies.

    Perhaps you can quote directly from the study you think supports the notion cloth masks are as good or better than N95’s for stopping a Covid pandemic.

    Another pull quote from your link.
    You notice it doesn’t say anything about cloth masks being as good or better. It says the recommendations for cloth masks are based on shortages of better masks. Of course there was no shortage then or now, so there is that. :)

    Please post a study showing cloth masks are as good or better than N95s for reducing spread of Covid. Not someone’s opinion or a review of influenza studies or a claim N95s are in short supply. An actual study showing the superiority of cloth masks.

    Go.
     
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    My friend, I do not consume any media like Tucker or Tucker in particular. I spend my time reading actual studies. Like the ones I provided you showing N95s are superior in performance and breathability to cloth and other mask types. You are still welcome to provide a study showing cloth masks are superior. Please do so.
     
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    One article of 14 flu studies that have nothing directly related to covid is your idea of actual studies ? They don’t even mention COVID, a different virus, in the study. Why don’t you look into the 141 studies provided you. Why don’t you go to the cdc web site or John’s Hopkins and ask for their back ground on their decisions. I emailed an MD specialist on a related medical question on a book he wrote and received a conference call with the specialist.

    Likewise, I conferred with an expert doctor in orthopedic studies in UMEA Sweden and related experts all across the nation. There is not one University or medical research facility that would turn you away. No, you swill the crapolla of a completely unrelated study because it suits your propaganda, hilarious.
     
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    You could not have read one of the sources. The entire article is devoted to COVID.

    n95s aren’t recommended over cloth masks for several simple reasons by JHU, the cdc, Mass General etc. for general public use. If it were just about filtering, we’d all be wearing scuba gear. It’s about droplets that carry the virus that the majority of infections are transferred in public settings and double layer cloth masks are actually MORE effective with multiple use then n95. Obviously, I’m much better informed then you are.
     
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    You really are a neophyte when it comes to COVID infections aren’t you. It’s not direct transfer of the virus, it’s by the droplets that the virus resides in. The virus can’t survive past the social distancing and then only for very short term and seldom in the doses necessary to induce an infection. . It’s only in a medical setting and then only for sustained periods that the virus becomes a direct threat. The vast majority of infections only occurs by droplets and even influenza is best controlled by double cloth masking in public settings.
     
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