Congratulations, Ron DeSantis. Great Job [rolling eyes]. Moron.

Maybe you didn’t read the title of the article from which the evidence is outlined.
An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19

 

THere is no direct evidence that masks help
Cochrane (7) and the World Health Organization (8) both point out that, for population health measures, we should not generally expect to be able to find controlled trials, due to logistical and ethical reasons, and should therefore instead seek a wider evidence base.
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

Everything else is political speculation

 

Your link is a literature review of mostly influenza studies. Read it.

 

I quoted your link. Here it is again.

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Overall, direct evidence of the efficacy of mask use is supportive, but inconclusive. Since there are no RCTs, only one observational trial, and unclear evidence from other respiratory illnesses, we will need to look at a wider body of evidence.
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And:

Please quote the parts stating cloth masks are recommended because they are better suited to stop a pandemic.

Or a peer reviewed study like I’ve presented. Go ahead.

 

Droplets and smaller aerosols. Cloth masks are very inefficient at stopping aerosol transmission. Have you ever stopped to consider why so many people wearing cloth masks became infected if they are so good? LOL

Love the fallacious arguments though. Keep it coming. Try mixing in a peer reviewed or even a pre print study showing cloth masks are better for controlling community transmission. Go ahead. Post a study. Not your opinion, a study. Go….

 

Show the evidence Mr Evidence man. 95% plus of those in the hospital for Covid are unvaccinated. They’re the same crowd that doesn't believe in masking of any kind. So you’re claim is full of holes. You’ve stated nothing of any substance. Mr Evidence man.

 

And:

Please quote the parts stating cloth masks are recommended because they are better suited to stop a pandemic.

Or a peer reviewed study like I’ve presented. Go ahead.[/QUOTE]
Of course you have no reference. I have the cdc, John’s Hopkins and every med research in the country Mr evidence man. Oh, you’re smarter right ?

 

The cdc says says masking makes a difference. I suppose you don’t belive in man made global warming either. Another science denier. Smarter then JHU you claim ?

 

Sure. Go to the cdc web site. They recommend them.

 

I’m uninterested in discussing vaccines right now. Let’s stick to masks.

Here’s a nice recent study showing cloth masks are only half as effective as surgical masks in public settings for controlling spread of SARSCoV-2.


Notice an 11% relative reduction for surgical masks vs. only a 5% relative reduction for cloth masks.

https://www.poverty-action.org/site..._RCT____Symptomatic_Seropositivity_083121.pdf


Now let’s see your study showing cloth masks are better for public mask usage. Go…

 

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The CDC is not empirical evidence. Neither is JHU. I’ve provided peer reviewed studies. Why can’t you produce any studies showing cloth masks are superior? Please try and supply something besides opinion.

 

They also recommend N95s now whereas before September 10th they recommended AGAINST N95s. Why do you suppose they stopped recommending AGAINST N95s?

 

Nope. They don’t. Only for special needs. I can read. They NEVER recommended against them for performance. They did not recommended them because of priority. They still don’t recommend them for regular use for price, convenience and suitability. The average person WONT wear them because they are harder to fit, breath through and maintain. I have proof. PRACTICALLY no one uses them outside of hospitals and emergency medical situations. Look around. Read the business posting. They NEVER TELL YOU THAT n95 are needed. You’re recommending something people won’t use….YOU DON’T.

 

You’ve provided nothing but a bogus reference to flus. I provided and article and every medical web site in the US. No hospital tells visitors they must wear n95. That’s all evidence.

 

If people won’t use them why did the CDC and others spend so much time and energy telling people NOT to wear them so there would be enough for healthcare workers? LOL.

Please provide the studies you and the CDC used to come to this conclusion. Go ahead. Don’t be shy. No more opinions. Give me some studies.

 

No sir. I’ve provided peer reviewed studies of mask use for Covid. You are the one who posts reviews of influenza studies. LOL

Don’t be shy. Post that evidence my friend. No more unsubstantiated opinions.

 

Yes. And almost all the evidence is from influenza studies. LOL

 

Read again. You missed something.

“Overall, direct evidence of the efficacy of mask use is supportive, but inconclusive. Since there are no RCTs, only one observational trial, and unclear evidence from other respiratory illnesses, we will need to look at a wider body of evidence.”

PNAS, An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19, Edited by Lauren Ancel Meyers, The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, TX, and accepted by Editorial Board Member Nils C. Stenseth December 5, 2020 (received for review July 13, 2020) (emphasis mine)
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

 

His own source contradicts him - must have been very distracted when he read it.

“None of the studies looked specifically at cloth masks.”
PNAS, An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19, Edited by Lauren Ancel Meyers, The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, TX, and accepted by Editorial Board Member Nils C. Stenseth December 5, 2020 (received for review July 13, 2020) (emphasis mine)
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

 

I’m pretty sure he isn’t reading anything. He complains about using influenza studies as evidence and then posts influenza studies. It’s why these people are so easily bamboozled by the CDC etc. They don’t understand evidence and don’t care to learn. They just believe and do what they are told, even if it is in direct opposition to empirical evidence.

I can’t believe these people still deny aerosol spread of Covid. All the things they believe are based on erroneous information about aerosols. It’s bizarre.

 

When science devolves into a higher superstition based on perceived ideological and political expediency it is time for the still thinking Left to get woke - fast.

"In a surprising turn, Arendt cites Noam Chomsky for evidence of the danger that intellectuals pose to democratic government. Chomsky writes, “Quite generally, what grounds are there for supposing that those whose claim to power is based on knowledge and technique will be more benign in their exercise of power than those whose claim is based on wealth or aristocratic origin?” Taking Chomsky seriously, Arendt worries that the new powerful class of intellectuals will employ their power in the name of defactualized social theories and not for the good of mankind."
AMOR MUNDI, Bureaucracy and Violence, By Roger Berkowitz, Academic Director, Hannah Arendt Center for Politics and the Humanities, Bard College, Oct 8, 2017.
https://medium.com/amor-mundi/bureaucracy-and-violence-41d14a74bcbc

 

Agreed. Media, politicians and entertainment have been conditioning society to appeal to the authority of science without critical thought for decades. Mission accomplished. Now the next step is to disseminate disinformation under the guise of science even though there is no underlying empirical evidence. The masses have been conditioned to accept anything as long as the term “science” is attached. Now science can be eviscerated as an arbitrator of truth.

I believe Nietzsche formed the template for the best description of what has been done. If I may parody what may be one of his most famous thoughts that turned out to be prophetic in the death of not only one, but now two institutions.

“Science is dead. Science remains dead. And we have killed it. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become progressives simply to appear worthy of it?”

Yes, the Enlightenment killed God. And replaced it with “science”. But when empirical evidence conflicted too much with our feelings and desire for control we had to kill science as well. Covid has clearly demonstrated this to be true.

For those who really do care about facts and individual human life, and are willing to use critical thought, consider: I am the madman. I have smashed my lantern in the street and this post is my pronouncement of requiem aeternam deo on science.

 

Yes, hence the current replication crisis.

The Heidegger influenced American university elite has embraced the idea that reality, even including gravity, can be altered by manipulating text or language - through “social construction”. This drift of the intellectual “left” beyond the shores of reason was documented by a physicist, Alan Sokal.

“I wrote a parody of postmodern science criticism, entitled ``Transgressing the Boundaries: Toward a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity'', and submitted it to the cultural-studies journal Social Text (of course without telling the editors that it was a parody). They published it as a serious scholarly article in their spring 1996 special issue devoted to what they call the ``Science Wars''.[3] Three weeks later I revealed the hoax in an article in Lingua Franca[4], and all hell broke loose.[5]”
What the Social Text Affair Does and Does Not Prove, By Alan D. Sokal, Department of Physics
New York University, April 8, 1997.
http://www.physics.nyu.edu/faculty/sokal/noretta.html

 

But, but, but, THE CDC SAID SO!!!! Now I will hold my breath and stomp my feet.