Congress may vote ‘No’ on Syria attack

You KNOW why.

You cannot reason with that psyche. You cannot hope that it will ever change. We must learn one thing when it comes to their kind. And that is to be as ruthless with them as they have with everyone else. No exceptions.

 

They are.

They love it.

A more clear distinction cannot be made than in the polling between them and us.

It is clear now. They are all the same. Only the degree differs. Other than that, they can all be regarded as a potential danger.

 

The author of the blog article that you posted, Mr Tony Cartalucci cited himself as a source not once but twice, do you know what we call that in an academic setting? Fraud.

Inside what source is the real source? The citations offered by your author included American Free Press a White Nationalist holocaust denial website, and himself not once but twice, the actual argument regarding the Wesley Clarke quote leaves out the little tidbit that it was from an unnamed white house staffer, that it was supposedly a 5 year plan, and supposedly from 2001.

As to the single legitimate journalist which your author cited IE Seymour Hersch I went into great detail of why that particular story was pure bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

Where exactly in the link cited in his article that he cited for this article show that Activists involved in the April 6th movement were in attendance:

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/12/2011-year-of-dupe.html
http://www.movements.org/blog/entry/first-aym-summit/

The second time he cites himself that article only cites the AFP neo-Nazi article which he referenced the first time around:

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/04/syria-intervention-inevitable.html

Pure unadulterated academic fraud, if you tried to use this blog in an actual research paper you'd flunk the class.

Your source is a blog, your author (a 9-11 truther who thinks Bin Laden is still alive) used himself as a source not once but twice, and I'm the one who is brainwashed and in need of an education? Jesus Christ this blog wouldn't have met High School citation standards, the wikipedia articles I use on the other hand are well referenced with reputable newspapers, academic publications and books.

 

Yeah. And we all know why they love Wiki, right?

 

Who are they Jack? Non-Nazi anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists? I like wikipedia because it is in the mane very well referenced, and I for one only quote wikipedia when it offers a citation.

 

These scumbags.

And their ilk.

[video=youtube;hMBramnCg_s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBramnCg_s&feature=player_detailpage[/video]

 

*L* If Obama says it's so, it must be so, right?

 

Thanks for laughs. Somalia and Sudan are well known tourists destinations. Lebanon is like Monte Carlo with the sectarian division flavor.

Blimey…Hariri Christian. What planet are you on mate?By the way, Hariri was killed in the Israeli/US plot. Nothing to do with Syrians and Hezbollah.

Seymour Hersh is a highly respected journalist and the Pulitzer Prize winner. Unlike you, who is just another anonymus poster whose entire perception of life and reality relies on Wikipedia. Not only pathetic but also sad. It is easy to choose who to trust, isn’t it?

What’s that to do with the topic? Unless you want to talk about dancing Israelis?

A lame attempt of deflection. Who cares? They quoted Michael Posner, word for word.

But you need to find links yourself silly. You are a definite disappointment. A clue. Letters are in the different colour. Just click on it.Tony is not giving away links easily so you can break and disable them at will...

 

I'm SORRY but I just couldn't resist....How can I take you seriously? How can anyone take you seriously?....

 

If not for the procedural errors of the British parliament which led to a vote NOT to join the US of AIPAC war rush there would have been ' Western ' missiles falling on people in Damascas last week. We should rid ourselves of these co-conspirators with Tel Aviv.

 

The last time we checked we're 6 years to late in overthrowing their governments if your conspiracy theory is to be believed.

I was thinking of Pierre Gemayel.

Abject bull(*)(*)(*)(*):



Report: Hezbollah officials receive indictments in Hariri murder probe
UN-backed tribunal arrives in Beirut to issue four arrest warrants for Hezbollah officials accused of the assassination of former Lebanon PM.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/r...e-indictments-in-hariri-murder-probe-1.370449

I know exactly who he is, and I know that half of the stuff he writes uses unnamed sources and is totally unreliable, this claim has already been totally debunked:



Link between the US government and Fatah al-Islam

In March 2007 Hersh asserted in a piece in The New Yorker that the United States and Saudi governments were funding the terrorist organization Fatah al-Islam through aid to Lebanese Sunni Prime Minister Fouad Siniora.[42] Following the publishing of the story journalists in Beirut uncovered that Hersh put forth the claim without any reliable sources. Hersh had heard the unconfirmed story from Robert Fisk who had, in turn, heard the story from former British intelligence agent Alastair Crooke. Crooke had only heard it circulated as rumor and no one had fact checked the claims before Hersh ran the story[43] which prompted a variety of criticisms.[44]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh#Link_between_the_US_government_and_Fatah_al-Islam

I was reminded of this story after The New Yorker published an article three months ago dealing with the Bush administration's attitude toward Sunnis and Shi'ites, written by investigative reporter and Pulitzer Prize-winner Seymour Hersh. In the article, Hersh wrote that the U.S. administration, embracing realpolitik, was siding with the Sunnis in their conflict with the Shi'ites. This led the administration to cooperate even with those who are hostile toward the United States, including groups linked to Al-Qaida. To back up his claim, Hersh wrote that the United States was transferring funds to the government of Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora, even though it knew some of the money was going to the Palestinian group Fatah al-Islam in the Nahr el-Bared refugee camp in northern Lebanon. (The article was published about two months before fighting broke out between Fatah al-Islam and the Lebanese army.)

Sharp-eyed reporters in Beirut read the article in astonishment. Siniora, of the Lebanese Sunni establishment, was assisting allies of Al-Qaida who had split off from a pro-Syrian organization? And the United States was aware of this and might even be planning it, in order to strike at Hezbollah? And all this was in the context of aid to the Sunni forces in the Middle East in their conflict with Shi'ites backed, according to Hersh, by Iran? A world turned on its head. How could it be?

But it was published in The New Yorker, a magazine known for its meticulous fact-checking. The Lebanese reporters began investigating the story on their own.

Hersh said he heard the story from Robert Fisk, the bureau chief of The Independent's Beirut office. But Hersh did not check out the story himself. For his part, Fisk said he heard the unconfirmed report from Alastair Crooke, a former British intelligence agent and the founding director and Middle East representative of the Conflicts Forum, a non-profit organization that aims to build a new relationship between the West and the Muslim world. Crooke, who gained his reputation through his involvement in the conflict in northern Ireland, does not know Arabic. When Lebanese journalists spoke to Crooke about the report, they said he told them only that he had heard it "from all kinds of people."

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/thus-are-reports-about-the-mideast-generated-1.223615

It goes to the veracity of your source.

I thought you said you weren't an anti-Semite? I haven't met too many non-anti-Semites who claim that Jews are behind 9-11.

But yes let's talk about these supposedly dancing Israelis, who apparently set up a video camera AFTER the plane struck the tower which in know way proves foreknowledge on their part whatsoever.

http://www.911myths.com/index.php/Dancing_Israelis

Really? You wouldn't happen to have a secondary source for that quote would you?

Why don't you do yourself a favor and put that quote into a google search engine and see what comes up It's actually not a quote from Posner at all but rather a direct quote from the AFP article stripped out of context, I was mistaken in this case AFP was Agence France Presse and it is an article about internet technology for anonymous browsing, your source then takes the gigantic leap of advocating for democracy on the internet without being detected by the police state and turns this into training and funding for armed rebellion.

Where exactly in the link cited in his article that he cited for this article show that Activists involved in the April 6th movement were in attendance:

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/12/2011-year-of-dupe.html
http://www.movements.org/blog/entry/first-aym-summit/

Regardless the April 6th movement was a peaceful youth movement that was pro-democracy not pro-theocracy like the Muslim Brotherhood protests that were to follow, in fact it was the same students of the April 6th movement who started the June 30th movement against the Muslim Brotherhood which led to the ouster of Morsi.

The second time he cites himself that article only cites the AFP article which he referenced the first time around:

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/04/syria-intervention-inevitable.html

The assertions connecting technology training to snipers on rooftops was entirely his own unsubstantiated conjecture on his part.

 

I've seen countless articles and news reports from the protests. Sorry but it happened. The dictator Assad machine gunned his own people for protesting then gassed them. He deserves whatever he gets.

 

Tru Dat!

 

Moon, our country has been occupied for over 200 yrs by the self same parasite that has hosted itself onto the US(and did at any early stage in it's life), in the self same way they have hosted themselves onto the region that they operate their crime cartel(aka 'Project Israel').

It's different kinds of occupation, but an occupation it is notwithstanding.

In the stolen land, they occupy with thugs in uniform, who kill children and women, and think it's just fine.

In the US and Europe it is a political and economic occupation. The latter permitted them to buy up the media. Ever wondered how Al Capone would portray himself if he had owned all of the media?

Zionism was never about a homeland for Jews which they would be satisfied with.

Zionism is not nationalist. It is internationalist, just like Jewish Communism. Just because they have a central crime hub and call it a homeland, does not make it so. 66yrs later, the bulk of the Jews do not live in their bloody(literally bloody) homeland. This proves beyond all doubt that they never intended for a homeland to live in it, per se. But to merely use it as a HQ for a crime cabal, out of reach of all international laws.

A central hub for child trafficking, fettering sex offenders like Jimmy Saville(who, believe it or not actually had a say on policy pertaining to Gaza and the WB), organ trafficking, money laundering, whore houses, white enslavement, and lord knows what other filth.



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Prove it.

 

Yes.

This.

Starting in the US and the UK, and then the rest of Europe.

Let's get this monkey OFF our back. Let's remove this parasite before the parasite kills the host.

[video=youtube;54TvzrTggiA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=54TvzrTggiA[/video]

 

Lol I know what I said ..................... you were picking five words out of twenty said, that is misquoting.

So this thread is all about words I have used in past threads is it? Gosh ..................

 

Ah but 'it isn't personal, it's just business'.

 

I don't feel like that Jack and if we look at History we see that ruthlessness begets either more of the same or an emptiness. I don't know what the answer is other than that The People begin to realise their responsibilities and as many individuals together voice their wish for moves toward Peace on Earth and away from so called Wars, all peoples including Jewish peoples for they are no different than the rest of us in that it is not the masses who wage War only the few.

If we do not bomb Syria I still think there is hope for us, if we do bomb Syria we have all lost and the Rivers of every Land will run red with blood, absolutely everywhere for the idiots 'know not what they do'. You might say yes they do but they don't for how can the heartless understand the heart?

 

Ah yes, we know, the fact that a supposed five year plan outlined by an unnamed staffer is 6 years and 5 countries behind schedule doesn't debunk the conspiracy, let's just extend the time frame indefinitely and I'm sure we can add in all sorts of dictatorships we're supposed to help overthrow and then in turn squeeze the facts in to fit the narrative as we go.

Yes we know, now the UN independent investigative tribunal is in on the CIA/Mossad conspiracy to murder Hariri. I guess these 5 indicted Hezbollah operatives are just innocent scapegoats, and the evidence against them was invented out of whole cloth. Tell us what would be the Israeli and U.S. motive be for murdering the anti-Hezbollah, anti-Syrian, pro-Western Hariri?

No actually when your source is a 9-11 truther, and overt conspiracy theorist it goes to show that he can not be considered a reliable source when his claims are not backed with evidence, especially considering that he cites himself as a source, not once but twice.

Why bring up the dancing Israelis?

I found the original article in question from which the quote was taken out of context, it was not a Posner quote it was a quote from the AFP article.

Yes demanding democratic reform through their inalienable right to freedom of assembly and freedom of speech is treacherous. What should be done with such people? Maybe we can put them all into camps or something, make them concentrate on their ridiculous notions of free elections and liberty, we could call them.... concentration camps.

Abject nonsense, the Assad regime has zero legitimacy, the only sovereignty that is legitimate is popular sovereignty, by denying the people free and fair elections and their rights of self determination, freedom of assembly, freedom of speech, freedom to redress their government for grievances, freedom of association, etc etc et al, the Baath have lost any and all claims to sovereignty, the sovereignty which they hold comes at the barrel of a gun and is completely illegitimate, the legitimate government of Syria sits in exile and is known as the Syrian National Council.

And yet the conspiracy theories can canards against them remain the same.

And by cooperation you mean they supported the transfer agreement in order to save Jews, you see under the laws of the British Mandate only Jews who had $1,000 in capital could enter and obtain residency, however, under the Nuremberg Laws and the Aryan paragraph contained in the Law for the Restoration of the Professional Civil Service all Jewish assets had been seized, so in order to obtain Jewish assets Jews in Germany were forced to break the boycott initiated by the Jewish community in America by selling German goods. That the Zionists supported rescue over relief, is not "cooperation" in any sense of the term.

 

Whose 'business'..?

 

I have posted the quotes in full, I took nothing out of context.

 

But nothing he said is wrong, including the German peace proposals at the time. And given the laws against speaking out to refute the Holocaust notion, there've been quite a few brave souls who pointed out the absolute absurdity of the Holocaust, as we know it famously to be taught. 6 million people were killed on the basis of their ethnicity. As a gullible child you swallow it up, but as I grow up I laugh at the utter absurdity.

If such a person with such a mindset ever existed, he never could've possibly won power in ANY country.

Think about it: There are people JAILED for espousing an opinion. Very luckily and thankfully in the U.S, I'm protected via the first amendment. But if I went to Central Europe, I would face the fate that befell several others. They couldn't even raise evidence in trial, lest that extend their sentence!

That absurdity especially, seals the deal in my mind. The truth need not be extorted at gun point. It was war, millions died in it. But a duly elected government did not commit genocide for such flimsy reasons.

 

I do not see that they have left us with any choice.

Think about it. Let's call them your 'empire nefarious' if you wish.

Well there empire needs 'subjects'. An empire with no subjects is like lungs with no oxygen. It's the people that breathe life into it, and make it what it is. They set the tone for it, including all related values, ethics, actions and so on. Without their 'subjects' to breathe life into it and KNOWINGLY(because they do) push it forward and keep going, proves to me beyond all doubt, that you can never reason with them. Or trust them. Therefore, if you cannot reason nor ever trust them, what is it you would hope to achieve by trying to reason with the unreasonable?

Nothing can be achieved that way. You know it. You cannot appease the sharks by feeding the sharks, AF. You do not win with blackmailers by giving in to their blackmail. You cannot achieve harmony when the other is hell bent on disharmony.

 

Note that snivelling little rat, Abe Foxman just could not wait(people like him must have some sort of mental illness), to take advantage of Syria, by citing mentioned of how much the Jews 'suffered due to gas'....

'Kin Israel want Damascus bombed and Syrians murdered, and only his people in ALL of the World back it. All other people have shown beyond all doubt that they do not. But not content with trying to pass off his desire for murder as something 'for the greater good', he is so effing SELF OBSESSED, he had to cite the boo hoo gas the Jews pish.

Even in the midst of a crisis it is ALWAYS about them.

 

Initial objective was to frame Syria and force them out of Lebanon as well as causing sectarian division between Shias and Sunnis. Hariri’s assassination, which many Lebanese wrongly blame on Syria, was the catalyst for mass anti-Syrian street protests and intensified international pressure that forced Syria to withdraw its army from Lebanon.

We are going on in circles here. His claims are backed up with evidence. The problem is you do not want to see the evidence. I cannot help you there.

Why bringing up 9-11? Are you a conspiracy theorist or what?

Nope. We just simply start shooting them like your new buddy Sissi is doing. I don’t hear anyone complaining.

And then he says this.

Can’t you see the ridiculousness of your statement? No one ever voted for them. Syrian people do not want them. And their salaries are paid by Saudi Arabia. Don’t embarrass yourself.

As for cooperation between Zionists and Nazis there is much more to it. Zionists even offered to fight on the behalf of Germany. There is 51 document which exposes collaboration between Zionists and Nazis. Something you do not want to talk about.