Congressman Issues 'Blueprint To Legalize Marijuana' For Democratic House In 2019

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  1. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I have called out a few Republicans for that very hypocrisy.

    Also, I saw an article that showed how cannabis legalization was cutting the legs out from under the cartels. The problem now is that the governments are over regulating it and pushing people back into the black market. People are just too ignorant or stupid to understand basic human nature and economics.

    Good news is I saw another article where the US has sent a delegation to Portugal earlier this year to study their methods.

    I am in TN, and we have a tightly contested Senate race going on between a GOP swamp rat and our former Dem governor. I have to vote for him and the Ds.
     
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    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    Ask yourself this, what good is opposition to Trump when all Democrats have to do is go to his office and ask for help on certain issues. Opposition to Trump means that if they get control, they immediately go for impeachment and immediately roll back his tax cuts and everything else he is doing to move the country forward,

    If Democrats get control in a few weeks, the stock market will tank and manufacturing jobs being restored will cease.

    If Democrats were looking to really help America, I'd be onboard. But they are not. Not at all. Imagine Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi running the country and destroying everything in their path.
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    when smoking dope is more important than secure borders, a healthy economy, 1st and 2nd Amendment rights, America First/Americans First trade deals....

    gross
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    First of all, I am not a stoner. I am for freedom. Attacking my character for discussing who I will vote for? You have the issue, not me.

    In fact, it takes character to go against your party and stand on principles. Ever done it?

    I also voted for John Kerry in 2004. I was in Iraq at the time. A team leader in an infantry rifle squad pissed at GW Bush for sending us to Iraq for no good reason other than retribution for his father's failures or to secure oil, or possibly to surround Iran, a neocon agenda. Did I loose my character then too?

    Your comment is a perfect display of Republican hypocrisy. The 'big tent' is getting smaller when you are in it Webrockkk.
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    I am pulling for cannabis!
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    hyperbole.

    The dems will not be able to roll back **** without Trump signature, will they? Ever heard of the veto pen?
     
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    Don't forget that Chuck and Nancy have chartered several hundred luxury buses (on the taxpayer dime) to go down and pickup the current caravan to get them up to the USA in time to vote where needed.... That's always a good one!!
     
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    Gross is locking people up for exercising their rights. That is one huge travesty of justice. So much for being the party of justice. More like the party of wrongly imprisoning folks. Well, that is if you were in charge. Thank God the Republicans are finally coming around on this. Like I said in my OP, I will probably be back. Most likely. But not with people like you around.
     
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    This is actually a great point, I am a states rights person so I would like to see "experimentation" done throughout the states until we settle upon something we are all happy with.

    But it is the Federal thing that bugs me, so here in California, the state says its legal, but I can still 'possibly' get rolled by Feds?

    Just ridiculous....

    Again, I think Republicans are being INCREDIBLY hypocritical with this argument, especially when it is used right after that of anti-gun control.
     
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    The problem right now is the feds are preventing the industry from being legit, meaning no banking. Cannabis business is purely cash, which makes it very dangerous. Not only that, but logistically very difficult.

    But ya know the feds don't have a problem collecting those cannabis taxes, do they?
     
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    Here in California that is changing, we are adding a 15% tax to it (I would like more and I smoke almost nightly) and hopefully that is just an initial evaluation.

    If the Feds dropped out of everything altogether and let the states do as they will, would that change your upcoming voting pattern?
     
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    A key Democratic congressman has a step-by-step plan to enact the end of federal marijuana prohibition in 2019 if his party takes control of the House,

    Does this congressman know the senate must pass a bill to this effect?
    And the President must sign it?
    Because of pot?
     
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    you got a ways to go, especially with Sessions as AG.
     
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    I fully support the legalization of marijuana. the difference between you and me is that I will not risk all my other rights and liberties by voting for Democrats. you see, I, unlike you, am mature and intelligent enough to know that marijuana will eventually be nationally legalized no matter which party is in power.
     
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    Well, OK then, good luck on your dope smoking crusade at the expense of everything else! LOL

    Exactly. Good point.
     
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    I don't think the Federal Government in the United States wants anything to do with this and they are happy to see the states take this task over. I remember hearing people state: "Just legalize it, we'll pay the taxes!", now all I hear is complaints about how much it costs. I still think the jury is still out on the adverse affects of dope, as far as I know. Certainly nowhere near as bad as cigarettes, though.
     
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    Your rights are fine as long as you don't use cannabis, then they are ****ed. The ultimate travesty is putting poor people in prison for using a God given plant for medicine.

    Like I said, those rights are important, but what about when you become the target? Who will stand up for your rights? Do you think the victims of the war on drugs will? What about their families?

    You can sit in your house and clean your weapons at night while the poor man guilty of growing a medical plant sleeps in a cell next to a murderer or rapist, and that is fine by you.

    ETA: I am glad you support legalization. I do too, and like I already said more than once, I will probably vote Republican again. Not this time.

    You really should apologize for attacking my character. Do you really believe that? If so, you are wrong.
     
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    Things always progress. the marijuana legalization movement is picking up steam and will eventually be successful (again, regardless of which party is in power). voting for rights and liberty stealing totalitarians because you're mad your state hasn't legalized it yet is like cutting off your dick to spite your girlfriend (or boyfriend)

    grow up.
     
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    What adverse effects? Cannabis has been around since before Jesus. How much longer does the jury need?
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    That is a long time when you are locked in a cell with a cheek busting rapist.
     
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    Thank you for your service camp_steveo.

    I have never understood why we imprison someone for picking a naturally growing plant, and smoking it. Hell, most all of the pharmaceutical drugs you take today were derived from naturally growing plants. But in the words of Todd Snider.....”its not what drugs your strung out on that they care about, its WHO’S drugs your strung out on”.
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    You attacked my character for voting for an American political party. I was there on the roof on an elementary school in Baghdad January 2005 for the first general election. Defending the rights of people to vote for whomever they agreed with. Where were you, watching on TV?

    YOU grow up, and learn what character is in the meantime.
     
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    we all make choices....no one forces stoners to violate the laws.

    you do know that one common characteristic of children is an almost non-existent capacity to delay gratification (as if drug addiction is gratifying).
     
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    That "key" Demo Congressman must be smoking some Key Stuff if he thinks that such a deal will pass. Did he use the paper from the blue prints to roll his joints before he smoked them after he made his "blue print".
     

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