Consenting adults exchanging money for sex - should it be illegal?

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  1. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

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    I say no it should not. Your body, your money, your consent... do what you will. What say you?
     
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    I'm one hundred percent against it, I want it to be illegal, but it should be legal anyway because I know my opinion of morality flies in the face of logic and freedom. I would, however, insist that zoning laws come into play if this is commercialized. Other than that, offering an individual cash when the same thing would be legal if it was for free doesn't make sense...except to my morality.
     
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    Women marry rich men all the time, sometimes men marry rich women.

    Women pushed into selling sex because of poverty or drug addiction is another matter. In an ideal world that wouldn't be necessary. The moral position would be to remove the need.
     
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    100% should be legal.

    However pimping should be illegal as all getout.
     
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    I can understand you being against it in a moral basis, but why would you make it illegal? We are talking about presumably free conseing adults engaging in commerce. What's the bother?

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    this thread is about prostitution, not pimping - which is a separate issue and removes the consent argument.
     
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    The oldest profession? It should definitely be legal.

    ... and deductible as a medical expense. :D

    Besides, I can always use a few extra bucks... need to start working the old ladies home? :D
     
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    They are definitely related issues.
     
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    Not really. Many escorts are independent. Even women who work in legal brothels are often independent. And in the normal world, what used to be pimps are now just managers. They take care of emails and scheduling, and provide protection for the women. Many women choose to use managers, They aren't coerced or forced into anything but they want someone to know where they are and when they should be leaving.

    It takes about a day for a woman to put up a web page and be in business as an escort. And that's what many do now. At the low end, it just takes an ad on Craig's list.
     
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    Not when the argument stipulates consent.
     
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    It's the oldest profession for a reason. Regulate and tax it. Make it safe for both the provider and the consumer.

    Also, our incoming first lady sold herself to our incoming president which amounts to a long term prostitution deal with fringe benefits. Trump is clearly fine with purchasing women he would not otherwise have a chance with. Why not?
     
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    I get that there are independent prostitutes but you can't say prositution and pimping are entirely separate issues.
     
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    People can sell their services and talents for money. Many a painter, carpenter, electrician, etc can do it. I don't see any reason that Adult Men and Women should not be able to choose to do this as well with regards to their bodies.

    There would have to be some protections and regulations involved of course to verify that these were actually adults, and that they don't carry any communicable diseases...but it should be a legal option for those who wish to do it IMO.
     
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    Actually, I would make it legal in spite of my personal objections, my morality doesn't overcome our freedom, especially 'if' there's no victim. But there would need to be some sort of zoning ordinances which prevent hookers from hanging out on the corner down the street from me.
     
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    I am saying there is an entire world of escorts where pimps don't even exist. You only see that at the bottom of the barrel where you have street prostitutes, human trafficking, massage parlors and the like. And if it was legal this would be easier to police. Law enforcement could focus on the criminal activities and leave the consenting adults to do their own thing.
     
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    you can when the argument stipulates consent.
     
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    understood. Good argument. I appreciate your objectivity. As for zoning, I think most residential areas are already off-limits to commercial pursuits, so I think you're covered.
     
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    it is already a crime to engage in sexual acts with a minor as they cannot give consent. As for diseases, I would place the onus on the "John."
     
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    Unfortunately theres another thread in which California seeks to undermine this common sense, and decriminalize prostitution for Minors...which I am 100% against for obvious reasons.

    We'll disagree on that part. Women and Men can both spread STD's, so whomever is being sanctioned in this business has to be certified "fresh" IMO. :mrgreen:
     
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    It's still illegal to solicit sex with minors in California.
     
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    The laws of a nation shows the degree of irrationality from supposed well educated politicians. So, the irrationality yields a woman having the right to kill her unborn because supposedly he owns her body and has liberty and personal sovereignty. Yet if a woman exercises it in another area, selling sexual favors, it is illegal. Same goes for illegal drug use. So, there is an incoherence in the laws, caused by emotions trumping rationality.

    Everything that does not harm anyone but the person doing it should be legal. We should be free to go to hell in a hand basket.
     
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    For now. Give California Liberals some time. These things don't happen overnight. Step 1 is to give legal permission for the minors to sell it which seems to be what they are doing at the moment.

    Once the stigma of that wears off, next steps will come.
     
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    If you think about it, money, or bartering for sex via a movie, dinner or engagement ring occurs hundreds of millions of times a day. It's not the exchange of cash/items, it's the method of sale I object to. I see it as wrong, perhaps that's the way I grew up. But the freedom to associate isn't based on my upbringing, so have at it.
     
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    If an adult man wants to pay an adult woman for sex, and she agrees to have sex in exchange for that money, in my mind, that is an offer and an acceptance, which constitutes a legally binding contract. I see not one thing wrong with that transaction. The notion that the government legislates morality between two consenting adults strikes me as absurd.
     
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    Why do you guys consistently bring up this lie?

    What part of "consenting adults" do you not get?
     
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    No. It should be legal. And there should be registration and health standards applied to workers (and users, to a certain degree).

    Let the morality of it rest with the 'individual'.
     

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