Conservatives: do you support Equal Opportunity for all?

First of all it's surprising to me that company is still around after that post, regardless of the employment decision.

 

I didn't realize being a nazi was a "race, color, religion, sex, or national origin" ie something a person cannot control
Your premise is false. Sorry.

 

No, that's called false equivalence. We also respect the autonomy of the woman's body and hence their choice in the matter. I personally despise the act, but it doesn't mean there aren't some other things at play. Righties tend to make the issue black and white, which it isn't. IMO, the government should be mandated to stay out of it except for the far late term, which is at least partially already on the books and this is how it should stay.

 

Yes, you're right. There have recently been people fired from powerful corporations for having non-progressive views, and there's nothing they can do about it. Same thing happened to Communists in the 1950s. That's capitalism.

But can you not imagine a situation where the applicant is a strongly fundamentalist Christian, very vocal about the dangers of Islam, a strong supporter of Israel's right to annex the whole West Bank, all these beliefs supposedly stemming from his religion ... and he's well known in the area. His religious beliefs are sincere, if obnoxious. Many of my customers are Muslims. I don't want to hire him. (By the way, it's not a principled thing: it's just that, in the America of today, it's not necessary to have these laws on the books. We should only pass laws when there is some serious harm to be prevented.)

 

There are very few white people working at my area walmart.

 

Pretending you are a conservative is absurd.

 

Like I said.

 

Gay hotel/motel owners in the Fla. Keys rent only to gays. You guys always have a dual standard, one for yourselves and one for everyone else.

 

America is the land of opportunity regardless of discrimination. Even the most discriminated against has the opportunity to excel in this country.

 

Your place is going to be vacant because you're not allowed to even ask those questions of potential renters.
But as a lefty you probably support minority only groups on campus, or separate graduation ceremonies for minorities. These things are happening now.

 

If President Trump were to coopt some of Andrew Yang's campaign platform a significant step would be made toward the USA economy being somewhat more equal.

 

No. Equality is impossible, you can only have fairness.

 

no, i think such ideas are racist garbage

 

Fairness is useless unless it is reciprocated and/or deserved. Being fair in the name of "fairness" is, paradoxically enough, unfair.

 

As a lifelong conservative I certainly support equality and fairness, though they really have very little to do with Conservativism. Unfortunately the concept of being a Conservative has dramatically changed to the point that it no longer seems to mean what it did even a decade ago. Being a Conservative used to be something of a philosophy and ethos instead of the political mess it is today.

 

Whats "You scratch my back, you scratch mine" got to do with it!

I would like to see how an equality boxing match between a fly weight and a super heavyweight would pan out.

 

One cannot support Equal Opportunity for All and yet also support the right of employers, schools, hospitals, stores, housing, to discriminate.

 

Neither can they support the right of a given customer to discriminate in his/her shopping by choosing Pepsi over Coke or a high school graduate's right to pick College X over College Y.

All choices and most of human interaction is based on discrimination. Discrimination is good.

 

stupidest analogy, ever.

we're talking about human beings here, not soda cans

 

In a rare disagreement with you tecoyah , equality and fairness have EVERYTHING to do with conservatism.

Modern American conservatism promotes equal OPPORTUNITY for all, i.e.artificial roadblocks are not thrown up to prevent certain people from the opportunity to aspire, dream, try, compete, achieve based on who and what they are. It also respects excellence and competence and accepts that people have different aptitudes and ability and some won't succeed as well as others in every endeavor. And that's okay. Standards of excellence are not lowered to accommodate those who do not qualify because that produces an unhealthy mindset of entitlement and ultimately results in mediocrity or failure. In conservatism, if the person doesn't qualify for one team, he or she might succeed with another or perhaps will need to choose a different direction for his/her life. But in conservatism, none are denied the opportunity to try and all are encouraged to try to be the best they can be instead of made to feel victimized and/or underprivileged and therefore should get special advantages.

Equality and fairness to a conservative is encouragement to be the best one can be without regarded to race, creed, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation etc. while allowing everyone to be who and what they are and not forcing them to conform to anybody else's politics, ideology, or other point of view. And while anybody can be criticized, he/she is allowed to be 'wrong'. But nobody is attacked, banned, destroyed purely because he/she holds a 'wrong' opinion.

 

You do well describing Reagan Conservative thought but that has little if any resemblance to what they believe today.

 

I disagree. Everybody I know who is also conservative I believe would pretty much agree with my definition of that.

 

I take it you do not know many TrumpHumpers?

 

That's an oxymoron. If you don't support the rights of employers, schools, hospitals, stores and housing but just the consumer, then where's the equality. Those who use the word discriminating do so because they just want their rights but not others.

The consumer can equally decide to buy something and a business can equally decide whether they wish to accept their offer to treat. The consumer is not told that you must buy that item against their will and equally, the shop should not be told that they must accept your offer to sell that item to you against their will. Whatever excuse they wish to use, that's their choice.

 

Okay. So you aren't interested in an adult conversation. That's cool. Each to their own. Have a pleasant afternoon.