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Sure. But let's be consistent about it. A lot of Europeans like to point the finger at white Americans for some of our views about certain blacks.

Well, stereotypes exist for a reason. Some people confirm them.

Obviously, viewing the majority of a race or culture as stereotypes is wrong, but recognizing that some people among these groups really are walking stereotypes is accurate.

 

Well yes.

There are is element of truth to any stereotype, I suppose.

Gyspies are seen as stereotypically insular, on the fringe of crime, and refusing to contribute to a nation.

Is that fair?

Is that accurate?

 

I doubt it to be "racism" - SETTLED people in most parts of the world (except perhaps Arab society ) tend to resent itinerents / nomads /vagabonds etc. . In Europe, there's been a long history of increased crimes in areas when so-called "gypsies " arrived.

One can draw a parallel with how many american "towns folk" viewed Trailer Trash / Hobos/tramps/vagrants/drifters/hippies etc.




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Sure, and yes, even some Jews are powerhungry bastards.

It's all a matter of judging people as individuals.

 

I take it you are aware this section, and most other sections of this forum are nothing more than a daily Muslim hate fest, by those that do not do the thing you say..?

 

How does saying that there were no Gas Chambers relate to any sort of racism ? That is irrational as well as usually untrue.

The Spanish and the British do not have a gun at their heads with the same anti freedom of speach Laws that other European Countries have. For that reason alone you will not hear 'denial' from many Germans or French people especially.


I thought this was a thread about Romanis of whom there is no proof of any exterminations of, either. Not even an attempt at any proof yet again we are suposed just to take 'your' word for it .


What was it Yuri said ? 17,000 sent to the Gas Chambers on arrival at Auschwitz, no records were kept .........We must really believe that those maticulous record keepers just for once said ...Oh sod it lets not bother today ?

Five Crematoria with three muffels each so at a rate of 15 bodies cremated per hour how long would it have taken to cremate those, un recorded 17,000 Gypsies ?

And what was it 2,000 Gypsies per gassing , in the most perfect conditions with Zyklon B lets say then 3 hours per gassing. So 17,000 divided by 2.000 = 5 sessions of 3 hrs equals 15 hours , and where they all waiting in line then and where were all the bodies kept in between 15 gassings and how long ? 1,000 hrs minimum of cremations ? You are talking about a few months here eh ?

Pull the other leg, its got bells on. .............

These lies these terrible terrible lies disrespect all who truly suffered I would say it is the exterminists who are the real racists in this, disrespecting and cheapening the whole human race.

 

I doubt it to be "racism" - SETTLED people in most parts of the world (except perhaps inArab society ) tend to resent/dislike itinerents / nomads /vagabonds etc. . In Europe, there's been a long history of increased crimes in areas when so-called "gypsies " arrived. I say "so-called " as many are'nt true Romas - just traveller with no settled addres/residence - who choose that sort of lifestyle, aka Tinkers/Spikeys/transients/ etc.

One can perhaps draw a parallel with how many american "towns folk" view Trailer Trash / Hobos/tramps/vagrants/drifters/hippies etc.

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Sure, but I've discovered that a lot of those people can't be reasoned with, which is why I often don't bother correcting them until it reaches a certain point where I'm no longer able to ignore them.

 

In America's case, the areas with the highest crime are inner cities that are predominantly black. This is where prejudice against blacks often stems from.

The sad truth about our murder rate is that it would be comparable to Canada and Western Europe if you left out the black on black murders.

 

And they call Americans uneducated. Good God...

You people would amuse me if it wasn't for the fact that you're the same types that help lead to genocides.

 

UKIP - perthaps ? LOL


btw - I'm slowly becoming disenchanted with our EU membership, the way things are going its Time for a rethink.



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Uh huh.

Well I would sure like to say more on that matter, but due to special T&C, I will end there.

Now.

Back to Romany.

On a previous page, there was an up to date situation with them, I think it was in Slovenia.

Did you watch that?

Tell me, do you think it is fair to ask them to be self sufficient, if they choose to live that way, and do you think it is a reasonable idea to get their kids into some sort of boarding school, so that they can, in the future, be self sufficient, or contribute something?

You can't just keep chucking £200mill at them, for it never to change.

 

New Zion Reich (Revised Edition).

ANYONE that questions the holocaust religion.

EU deniers.

People that refuse to believe state truths.

Old people.

Poor people.

People that do not live close enough to a Starbucks.

People that drive a second hand VW.

 

New Zion Reich (Revised Edition).

ANYONE that questions the holocaust religion.

EU deniers.

People that refuse to believe state truths.

Old people.

Poor people.

People that do not live close enough to a Starbucks.

People that drive a second hand VW.

 

So.

What is that telling you?

 

All I can say is that we don't have this problem for multiple reasons. Beyond the historical and geographic ones, the following factors help:

1) Welfare in most areas here has strings attached or firm limits.

2) If a culture really wants to be nomadic here, they've got more than enough rural land to explore.

3) Our cops don't tend to mess around with loitering types. We still have plenty of Constitutional protections for the accused, but we also have law enforcement with the latitude to "discourage" certain behaviors.

In short, Gypsies would get slapped around a lot more here if they tried doing some of the stuff here that they do over there.

 

Yes you do.

You pay much more.

Your 'gypsies' are in Israel.

 

It tells me that a legacy of slavery, segregation, and gang culture can be very destructive.

 

I'm pretty sure your Gypsies don't serve well as a military proxy.

 

Okay, who created and enabled those conditions?

 

They don't get us hated by the rest of the world, if that's what you mean.

And we can always do something about our's.

 

Slavery -- Europeans and African warlords initially. Also, Arabs were involved in it even earlier than Europeans.

Segregation -- primarily Southern elites and the masses that supported Jim Crow

Gang culture -- our prison system and a weak family structure among black communities

 

It did not appear in the NYT's provide the NYT's article or get the (*)(*)(*)(*) out.

In 1933 the Daily Express was a sensationalist mass circulation paper run by Lord Beaverbrook, a man of eccentric views who felt no compunction about using his headlines to promote favorite causes or to denounce pet peeves. During the early years of the Hitler regime he thought that Britian should avoid alliances with France and other threatened European countries. In a private letter in 1938, he expessed the fear that: "The Jews may drive us into war." But his most famous pronouncement of the period, delivered in the very same front-page headline style as the "Judea Declares War" item of 1933, came on SEPTEMBER 30, 1938: "The Daily Express declares that Britain will not declare war this year, or next year either. Peace agreement signed at 12:30 a.m. today."

Anti-Chomsky Reader pg. 123

The so called "war against Germany" was a sensationalist pronouncement of the Jews boycott of the virulently anti-Semitic Nazi regime.

 

Okay, so even if all of that is true, is it now the result of it the fault of blacks, or of those that enabled it?

It must be the latter, since they know no better, in a lot of cases, right?

So.

How to fix it?

 

We're hated by a lot of countries that would generally hate us anyway. And as much as certain other Western nations seem loathe to admit it, they aren't very fond of them either.

There's plenty of hate to go around in the Middle East, and it would still exist even if Israel disappeared from the face of the planet.

For example, Jews have nothing to do with the feud between Sunnis and Shiites.