(cont) Holocaust Memorial.......

1.1million what?

I thought it was six? Or four? Or six again?

I can never keep up.

Anyway, you would then have to demonstrate evidence of their deaths to, proof, which I do not feel you can.

Esp not the method, and esp no direct policy, since none ever existed.

Please note, that the particular method of Zyclone poisoning causes obvious and distinctive marks on the body.

If you can lop 17,000 off, why not another 17,000, and so on?

 

Well, one which uses torture as policy, or dissapears people, or locks them up without trial, while the society know about it, and say feck all, is one that is damaged and devolving...

 

Well, my alternative theory is that they were there for tea. Radioactive tea, what with all the hair and weight loss, of course.

 

I'm a little confused here. Aren't you the one defending the Nazies in this thread?

 

It is this 17,000 which is their main story ...the rest is vague. Huge massive family compounds were built for the Gypsies ......the story is that at some point Hitler suddenly changed his mind about letting them live in this especially built huge compound in an Industrial complex of over 20,00 people, were workers were needed, and gassed them all ? Just like that !

Even the 'Master Race' is a lie ,he never said it.

''I will add at this point that the Germans never had a "master race" doctrine to begin with. Herrenvolk does not mean "master race." That definition was the result of a combination of Allied misunderstanding of the German Führerprinzip and anti-German war propaganda. It meant 'elite leadership corps', and that was strictly in reference to continental Europe, not the world. Hitler did not have world aims, but European ones. Further, the German terms folk (Volk) and race (Rasse) were not synonymous. Herrenvolk ("Volk of leaders") was not akin to Herrenrasse, and as a matter of fact, the Nazis never used the term Herrenrasse ("race of leaders"). Indeed, Hitler himself differentiated the two German terms at Platterhof. He said, "Volk und Rasse ist nicht dasselbe." ("Folk and race are not the same.") It appears that historians influenced by wartime Allied propaganda, and not the Nazis themselves, invented this term and its subsequent racist connotation. This explains why so many Western Allied leaders were shocked to see Russians fighting for Nazis on the Western Front, Indo-Chinese in the Ostlegionen (Eastern legions), and why historians have been loath to describe such Nazi racial dynamics even unto the present day.''


Interesting other pov .we should check and double check all these things but ...........we see always only the lies untangling them takes a lot a alot of effort

http://rense.com/general88/divers.htm

 

So, who in the BNP are you guys voting for? Don't be shy.

 

No body is defending the Nazis for what they did, it is what they did not do but are falsely blamed for doing that any of us are arguing ...

 

And you're using excellent sources, I might add. Jeff Rense... http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Jeff_Rense

 

See, Serf, there is a good reason why some people are DESPERATE to ensure that reading what you like, as an adult, is a crime!!!

They prefer to tell you, no no Serf, you cannot buy or read this, for if you do, the book itself will have magical powers.



They prefer tell you something is just too 'evil', for your sensitive wee eye.

However, sometimes, when one can get past that, for example here, where my state do not treat us as babies, to the same degree as other parts of SILENCED Europe, you often find that reality is not as bad as the myth, moreover, you may even find something which is ...prophetic, dare I say?

Mein Kampf page 184-

When the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the new national consciousness of the Jews will be satisfied by the establishment of a Jewish State in Palestine, the Jews thereby adopt another means to dupe the simple-minded Gentile. They have not the slightest intention of building up a Jewish State in Palestine so as to live in it. What they really are aiming at is to establish a central organization for their international swindling and cheating. As a sovereign State, this cannot be controlled by any of the other States. Therefore it can serve as a refuge for swindlers who have been found out and at the same time a high-school for the training of other swindlers.

 

Do you mean the Zionist BNP?

Well I am out, for a start.

 

They only have one brain cell between them ...what difference would it make ..........


[video=youtube_share;4v0GoMQvOoQ]http://youtu.be/4v0GoMQvOoQ[/video]

 

It isn't a source of mine though when googling I come across it often. I have never found anything bad on it ...? What is wrong with being anti the Powers that Be when the Powers Be wicked ? Should we not always question ?

I said it was an interesting artical as another pov. .

 

You can read Mein Kampf anywhere you like in America. It's required reading in some courses.

You can even read rense or David Icke's or Alex Jones's material.

It's all there for you to see, but I don't think you'll find much of it very useful or informative.

 

Nup, that is the Zionist funded fake nationalist group, the EDL.

 

Makes no odds.

The point is, why make a crime out of reading or writing the 'wrong' thing?

 

History is written by the victors, and I don't view the Allies as being infallible or super moral. At the same time, however, I find it a bit nonsensical to suggest that Auschwitz wasn't a death camp or that it didn't end up killing a lot of people.

My view on the camps wouldn't be significantly different if the death toll was just 500,000. 1.1 million or more, it's all generally the same to me, so I just find these kinds of discussions a bit odd.

 

I'm not defending laws against Holocaust denial or even being a Nazi politically.

 

It is just silly ..... I don't like the BNP either .

 

Griffin is a total loser, cringeworthy stuff. The BNP had to try to distance themselves from the EDL, recently, when it became clear that while the EDL are made up of football hooligans, those that finance them for the sidelines, are Zionists.

That is how they even have a Jewish division.

And that is how the founder of the Jewish Div said (of the EDL) - 'They think they (EDL) are using us, but it is really us(Zionist Jews), that are using them'.

 

I know you are not.

But Germans cannot write and speak free, and instead, are made criminals out of, if they dare to.

That is why you will find it hard to get a German that will.

A true German I mean, like one born and raised there.

 

I thought the same as you did most of my life, I was so very very affected by the horror of it all .................... It is a long story but I came to a time when I had time to research properly, this Holocaust, for years and I have found no evidence of it at all.Not one tiny weeny peice of evidence ....It is a wicked lie, the whole thing.

I cry as much at the horror of the lie and its' damage as I did about the sorrow of the 'Holocaust' lie when I believed it.

We are all as bad as each other , when we finally realise that, we the people, we might have time to begin to build peace on our Planet Earth. And it is only the people who can, the politicians never will Truth we can learn from lies we cannot.

 

Well, the reason for the laws initially made sense. I think more than enough time has passed to remove them, however.

Still, it sounds like you have a rather low opinion of the average German.

 

Really?

So it doesn't matter to you when the claims vary so wildly?

Btw, that figure of between 500,000 to a mill, it may be around the same number of people that the US state murdered, in Iraq, via war and sanctions.

And now you are getting ready to do it all over again.

Why?

There is only one true reason.

Your body politic lick the jack boots of Israel.

 

I'll tell you where a lot of my evidence came from.

My grandfather helped liberate one of the camps. He was with the 82nd Airborne.

I don't think he would lie about something like that.

 

On the contrary.

I feel for them.

I feel for them that they are manipulated in this never ending game of false blame and false guilt.

I feel for them that they got no justice, for the war crimes of the bastard Red Army.

I feel for them that they are bled by Israel.