Contrary To Media Framing, New Zealanders Are Not Rushing To Give Up Their Guns

Oh my, how many can you come up with for the Europeans and their 2000 yrs of history?

Which is more 200 years or 2000 years?

So for thousands of years the Europeans were ****ing up to our little 200 years.

So now who is the bigger **** ups in time? LOL

And those ****ing up for over 2000 years shouldn't be talking or preaching. Wouldn't you agree. After all time shows them as more of a **** up than anyone else that came after them.

 

Post 69 "Nearly 100 years ago! How many countries has the US invaded and bombed since then?"

 

I get a laugh attack ...

In fact, there is really an American who thinks he can accuse us Germans because of our 70 years and more old bad history, and that impress us Germans and makes us feel ashamed again? Lol ... Dude, these times are long gone and such attempts as yours bounce off like thrown dirt on Teflon!


Shame on yourself for your bad American history of the last 70 years! But I know, you won’t …
But that's the difference between us ...

We Germans know about our bad history, we do not deny it, have learned from it and drawn the necessary conclusions.

Your Americans think you have the permission to do everything you think is right and so automatically it cannot be bad what you do and cause in the world .... simply, because you are American, eh?

 

Oh you know your bad history.....and yet think you can preach to others and call others degenerates over weapons.

Well the one thing we Americans do know.....is the Germans can't be trusted. Hence all those US bases in Germany. Just to keep Germany in Check.

To bad you weren't able to figure that out.

 

It is getting better as far as your ignorance goes ...

Which many US bases are with us? Lol ... you mean those 15,000 US soldiers who are still with us, of which just a single unit is a fighting force - 2nd Armored Cavalry? Lol ... You do not even have any depots with weapons etc. stored here as in former times by "REFORGER", where you need only by airliner to bring in the soldiers ...

And that would be now come ... if I felt like it ... bring us to the topic what you Americans still do for NATO and how much of your gigantic military budget has anything to do with NATO. But I do not ... because that would be wasted time.

You are really funny in your American dream world ...

 

Ahahahahaa now you admit it only takes 15k US Soldiers to keep you Germans in check.

Just remember.....no one is running to Germany for help.

Oh and yes you would be wasting time about NATO. Wherein Germany can't even live up to the standard of being able to provide for others.


Oh and btw about the US military bases in Germany. Just so you should know.


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You will catch up as your population of people who can not assimilate into the German culture grows.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...latest-news-no-go-zone-reality-refugee-crisis
As the population grows, https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/11/29/5-facts-about-the-muslim-population-in-europe/ once it gets to about 20% severe problems begin.
https://therealside.com/2017/02/the-dangers-of-muslim-population-growth/

 

Did you read his mantra? He said he could have easily used a bomb or other means to kill a large number of people, but knew using guns would cause the most division between the political sides. He knew the anti-gun side better than they know themselves.

 

Yet he is causing unanimity, as the Port Arthur killer did in Australia. The laws will pass quickly and with minimal opposition. Most people will turn in whichever of their guns are now illegal. It will be a generation before anything more than minor changes are even contemplated, and even that will go nowhere.

Clearly he doesn't understand politics as well as he (or you) think.

It is also clear from his actions that he chose guns so he could live stream the murders. Just watching a bomb go off isn't going to excite the nutters and cause the same sort of fuss more generally. As I said, he had access to ten times more targets in Australia and bombs are no harder to make here. The equation isn't that hard to work out.

 

Actually he knows that those who desire division and armed revolt are right wingers and anything that threatens their gun fetish is enough to further that cause

 

The Left are the mentally unstable people who have no self control and commit violence against political rivals on a regular basis. The Right just want to be left alone to live their lives and be prepared when they run up against mobs of lunatic Lefties.

 

Nice try, but failed ... because these No Go areas or zones exist not only since refugees came, they exists for decades. And ... where is the difference to your no go zones in your cities at least?

And about Muslims ... you know that this is bullcrap, because parts of Europe have Muslim population since centuries. The problem is not the religion, the problem is the integration that fails on both sides and this integration fails also to other migrants who are not Muslim ... even other Europeans!
Look on the UK and their rediculous hate against these evil Eastern Europeans who rob their jobs as these right wing fake new trolls want people make to believe ... Are Polish suddenly Muslims?

 

Lol ... for those 15k our Federal police needs 30min ... 20min to laugh and then 10min to fight!

Lol ... you still do not get it! We allow you to station these 15k soldiers with us ... within NATO ... but a permit can go out! And we have already missed you some prohibitions, so start, for example, no UAV from Germany to then somewhere to kill alleged terrorists with a Hellfire! And you know what ... you keep to the ban, because you have no choice but to keep Ramstein Air Base!

And do not worry, who trusts in the help of the US, lives very insecure! You are no longer a trusted partner of allies! But we have enough other friends for that ... so do not worry about us!

I know that it's very hard for people like you to think that we are a completely sovereign country, and that it has the impudence to have their own interests and to put them above US interests rather than the will to bow to the US against their own interests!
And if all else fails, then the Nazis come as an argument ... ridiculous!

 

You seem to be agreeing with my post more than you think. You say these no go areas are like some areas in US inner cities, well yes, now you see how you are catching up. You admit the lack of integration causes trouble, well that's what we have been saying, it's more the number coming in. In the past immigration would surge and then pause while the new immigrants integrate. Islam tried to conquer and convert Christian lands from the very beginning. Taking them in means making sure they are not radicalized and willing to accept our culture and laws. I don't know what issues you guys are having with east Europeans but I assume it is similar to the US in the past when large numbers of for example Irish immigrated. People were upset about them taking so many jobs. In my experience, East European's are viewed favorably by the Right.

 

The whole thing has only one catch, these No Go Areas are with us and with you since forever ... for 100 years and more!
Do you seriously believe that in the 1920s and much earlier in Berlin and other German cities, there were no no-go areas ... even if they were not named but had different names?
Do you think that New York and other US cities did not have such areas in 1920 and at other times?

It is interesting, however, that in fact there have always been parts of the city in which the immigrants of that time lived predominantly ... for example Poland in the Ruhr area with cities like Essen, Dortmund, Duisburg and where hard coal mining and steel industries were ... or with you the Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans in general or Chinese. In their quarter you would have dared not more than in today's No Go Areas!

Only ... a difference: they are now integrated with us and you, or not?

The basic problem with Islam and the hatred of Islam is that here a clear and very small minority abuses religion and uses it to justify terror. But the majority of Muslims are different and do not follow them ... but they are not loud enough against the scum and that's the problem. As for the content of the Qur'an, sorry, the Bible is also full of violence, because the shameful Christians always claim that only the New Testament is valid, which is just a lie and nonsense. Or do not Adam and Eve, Genesis, Abraham, Moses, etc. belong to the Christian religion?

And as for the British and their "hatred" against the evil, job robbers from Eastern Europe ... sorry ... they're just crazy and blaming their own failures on others. Depending on the source, about 1 to 1.3 million Poles moved to work in the UK. Most of them do work that no Briton wants to do for this money and where, however, no Briton wants to charge a higher salary, because then things get expensive ... for example, elderly care in homes etc.
And as far as the other jobs are concerned, if there was claiming dumping, sorry, then the British laws are garbage that makes that possible!
Funny ... we have at least as many Poles live in Germany and we do not have the problem! Why? Because our politicians exceptionally with laws and also the authorities against such a wage dumping proceed and prevent it as far as possible.

 

I'm sure you have had trouble in big cities, not sure how bad. My parents are from Baltimore city and we kids used to play in many areas with no supervision where I as an adult would not step foot in today. Integration is key, if a population of people feel treated as second class citizens they will resent it and cause problems. When the government takes the wrong approach to fixing the problem it only makes things worse. Do you have some sort of prevailing wage laws that prevent excess labor causing wages to fall?