Cops respond to domestic violence then grab the victim by the neck and throw her to the ground

that is so unfair, so you think all cops are fed with a silver spoon? and those who grew up disadvantage will abuse their friends and families?

 

You must operate under this simple mantra: There are no good cops. ALL COPS ARE BAD. In reality, there ARE a handful of good cops...but they either turn bad or leave law enforcement quickly. Most cops would be perfectly happy to strut around in fancy black Hugo Boss duds, and herd Jews into boxcars.

 

The cop used excessive force, but will likely not suffer for it. While he should be in prison, he may be fired but will be rehired somewhere else.

That works only if cops abusing their power is a rare event. Its not rare. Some of the more aggregious cases make the news, such as Baby Boo-Boo (cops raid wrong house, throw a flash bang in a baby crib, then blame the parents), John Crawford (innocent man in WalMart swatted then murdered by cop), or aiyana Jones (7 year old sleeping on the sofa,shot in the head in a late night no-knock raid, killer cop blames the Grandmother who is charged).

Typically the police dept rallies around the cop, harasses and blames the victims, and brings the might of the state on the case to defend the cop. In all the above cases, the killer cops did not pay for their horrible abuses.

In fact, in the Aiyana Jones case the killer cop (Joseph Weekley) said the grandmother grabbed his gun, it went off killing Aiyana. The grandmother was immediatly arrested and charged with manslaughter, assaulting a cop etc. It was revealed 4 YEARS LATER that her fingerprints were not on the rifle. The cops knew Weekley was lying all that time.

And the tv show 48 Hours was filming the raid. The tv show had video evidence exonnerating the grandmother, clearly showing she was nowhere near the cop (Joseph Weekley) when he murdered Aiyana. The cops hid the video. When the show producer (Allison Howard) had enough and secretly released the video to the defense attorney, she was charged with "evidence tampering" and "obstruction of justice".

Never trust cops.

 

You express subjective generalizations about all police. You have no statistics as to the totality of violence initiated against police in the first place to then extrapolate how many reactions to that violent happened to then make a comparison to come to the conclusion you do. Your assumption is based on what you read on the internet. You live in a generation where you think your selective exposure to specific stories on the internet is sufficient to make the generalizations you do.

Words like "its not rare", or "typically the police dept." are stereotypes or generalizations where you lump all police in one simplistic category.

Your second statement is illogical. It makes a sweeping generalization that police internal affairs units and civilian oversight agencies let alone body cameras and police car cameras do not work and are not used.

You provide what you clame are cases to justify using the term "killer cops" and comments designed to piss on all police including the honest ones who do not abuse their power.

Then you appeal to people's ignorance with the statement "Never trust cops." If you said "Never trust blacks", "Never trust fat people", "never trust lesbians with short hair", "never trust Albanians", would it make sense? Why would you appeal to such ignorance that requires someone to maintain a closed and negative bias about all police? You think that will help when they encounter police?

Tell me have you ever been a police officer? Of course not. You have never been in their shoes. Do you not think until you have your opinions might be bias?

I have biases. I was a prosecutor on the side of putting people in jail and working with police. Then I was on the other side defending people and I then became a mediator.

I have been on both sides and then went into work where I was required to see all the possible "sides" of any dispute or issue.

So? Well sure I know police on the take, violent police officers and? I also know honest, decent police officers. I can say the same about lawyers. In fact as one I went through a stage where I was so disgusted with my fellow lawyers and how we practiced law and even the Judges I saw on the take I felt myself becoming extreme. However for every piece of **** out there is also a good person. When you throw out the simplistic stereotypes you do about police, all you do is help reinforce why some of them have a "seige" mentality or do not trust you either.

Think about it. Why would a police officer who you do not trust, trust you? You think they can't pick up your non trusting attitude?

Hey man come on. You ever done a traffic stop where they have to walk up to a dark or close window? How do they know you do not have a gun, knife, are holding someone hostage? You think if you react full of distrust they won't get uptight?

You ever had someone suddenly pull a knife or gun on you? You ever had people every day on a front line be rude to you and violent and it doesn't shape how you behave?

It works both ways. Young black men who get stopped by police doing nothing wrong, get distrustful of police yes. Police who have their guard down get shot.

Its a two way street.

I am not hear to defend corrupt police, violent police. I am here to tell you that as a prosecutor I saw very violent people walk free and this has impacted on the police who arrested them and me. You know how many pedophiles and wife beaters I saw walk? You have any idea? What about police who then see them again walking the street near a school or park full of children or get called again to their house? You expect them to be without bias? Really?

Oh hell I know so many mentally ill people and many who are homeless or drug addicted. Yes they get arrested but you know what, if you were on the street you would know police actually are not that bad to them and its when they get violent things happen.

As for being on the other side, I would not defend certain people. I could not. The people I defended were homeless., mentally ill, drug addicts and I am telling you the police were helpful not a problem.

Did I see police cover up violence? Hey I will speak plain as can be. Some guy completely high on a drug jumps a cop. That drug makes them very strong plus as you might not know, mentally illpeople in a rage get very strong. You stereotype a lot about police being abusive....well have you had some drug crazed person jump you where you have a split second to react and they could grab your taser, hand gun?

Have you had someone grab your neck and begin choking you and bite your face?

Hey. I know prison guards, police, nurses, emergency room physicians, firefighters paramedics,, teachers, social workers and mediators like me who have been attacked. All front liners are expected to be perfect. Well? You know what it is like? You really think you have time to act slowly and calmly when your life is in danger or shorts are coming at you or someone is literally attacking you?

Your adrenalin is triggered. Your stress triggers activate all kinds of chemicals. No you are not a robot and its easy to sit in an armchair reading your internet posing as an expert on police engagement. Well sorry I challenge it.

To start with you probably need to read the actual training police are given.

Then you need to understand how quick someone can move.

Then you need to learn what actually happens in real life and how people not just police are violent and police just don't walk around violent, they react to violence.

In the real world the police officer is on red light in terms of violence. They sit in a car or at a desk. Maybe they are on a bicycle, motorcycle, walking, behind a counter. They rarely have to use their gun. They could go days with boring routine and encounters often with rude people as they give them tickets or tell them to calm down.

Then they go from this red light state to green light all systems go in the line of danger. It happens very quickly. You think its easy to turn on the green light then suddenly switch it off and go back to red light?

You think a cop has a robot on and off switch? You know what is like to answer a domestic call and someone is shooting or has a knife or someone is screaming or a kid is scrceaming or someone with a bloody face comes running out or you have someone drunk in your face swearing and not making sense?

You ever tried to cuff someone?

Come on man.