Copyrighted material online for profit now a felony, automatic lifetime loss of gun rights

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Due to a new law passed by Congress, you can now lose your gun rights permanently for life if you host online copyrighted content for profit.

    This could potentially even mean showing a little portion of something on your YouTube channel.

    This is now a felony. The law was snuck in along with the COVID Relief Bill, as part of the agreement to get it passed.

    The COVID Relief Bill Sneakily Makes This Common Behavior a Felony (msn.com)


    I believe most of you don't truly realize what all the laws that have been passed actually are.
    I can only guess it must be a wholesale ignorance on the part of the masses of people.

    All sorts of things could be perceived to fall under the category of a felony now, and under current US law, these people will automatically lose their gun rights for life, unless their request to have their rights restored is granted. But under the law, they do not have a right to have their rights restored.


    Now, there might be certain situations where people deserve serious punishment for doing this, but it's also easy to imagine many other situations where what was done was not that bad, was very trivial, harmed no one, or even the person did not realize it was a crime.

    I mean, there's no guarantee this new law is only going to be used against those who deserve it.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That sounds like an extreme abuse of power. © infringement is not a violent crime.
     
  3. wgabrie

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    From your article:
    The new law known as the Protecting Lawful Streaming Act, which had been introduced by North Carolina Sen. Thom Tillis earlier this month, was not developed to target "individuals who access pirated streams or unwittingly stream unauthorized copies of copyrighted works," CNN reports. It instead penalizes larger "commercial, for-profit streaming piracy services" that break copyright law by illicitly streaming material without permission.

    "This commonsense legislation was drafted with the input of creators, user groups, and technology companies and is narrowly targeted so that only criminal organizations are punished and that no individual streamer has to worry about the fear of prosecution," Tillis said in a written statement. Any violator of the law could face up to 10 years in prison and hefty fines.

    So, most people who use streaming-content, even pirated content, aren't the targets of this law. Most of us do not need to worry. Even if we're doing anything shady. :)
     
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    Is pornhub still ok?
     
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    Kranes56 Banned

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    Do you stream copy-righted videos on this site... pornhub? I don't know what porn is, is it some new variation of corn?
     
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    It's like corn, but better!

    Anyway...

    I assumed this particular legislation was directed at hosts or uploaders on torrent sites, or illegal sports and movie streams, but I'd wonder about where the line stops.

    Like for example, on the sports forum or reddit guys will post analysis of a player, or certain plays using clips of the game footage, if this type of legislation messes with that, then it really sucks balls.
     
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    I love me some corn! I’ll have to get some at porn hub!

    But yeah my concern is that sites like YouTube are going to focus on professionalizing content. These kinda of laws are meant to discourage small businesses by focusing on larger businesses which can get away with doing their own material.
     
  8. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Not an abuse of power, but legislation designed from those ignorant of the law of unintended consequences.
     
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    Civil asset forfeiture was not designed to be used to take houses from the parents of teenagers who sell a joint on their back porch, or to confiscate grandmas car and life savings because she was transporting it 'suspiciously' either, but thats primarily what its used for now.

    This law will creep similarly.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Many laws are purposely designed to be enforced with discretion. Which means?
    For instance, in my state the knife law forbids the carrying of a dangerous weapon, without any definition of dangerous...What’s does dangerous mean?
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    When I was young in the North of Ireland, about 7, I read the biography of Samuel Colt. The book described how early guns were made as the book was explaining the history of Colt’s evolution of thinking. It also explained some of his early experiences and experiments with fire arms, including how Colt made his own gun powder when he was young. It took multiple tries, and many months of collecting ingredients, experimentation but I eventually made workable blackpowder, which I initially used in making fire works. Then around the same period of time, I used the ideas from the book and other library sources to make a gun, a basic pattern from which I made many others for myself and others. Then, later, when I had access to cartridges, either read or learned from someone, the concept for making slam-fire weapons. My experiments, taught me a lot about how basic gun design.
    Then at 14, while working at my uncle’s machine shop I got basic blue print, one of those designed by the allies in WWII to be circulated among occupied countries, for building a MK II sterling machine gun. After understanding the conceptual design, I made a small, .22 LR working full (auto only), open bolt tube design machine gun... not very accurate, but an amazing ROF. Then I build a full size version for 9mm that also, after a lot of tinkering, was successful. There were a lot of books floating about like atheists Anarchist Cookbook, the SAS survival guide and the IRA handbook that had designs and formulas for a lot of weapons... all with information that could be obtained from a variety of resources, including the public library.
    My basic point is the information for building anything is out there, in public sources. Information, knowledge cannot be completely purged from the public domain. At what point does such knowledge become a crime? England once executed priests spreading Catholicism, musicians singing traditional, and those teaching the Irish Gaelic language, when does knowledge become dangerous enough that it justifies criminal penalties for possessing it?
     
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    Yes, I should've put was not designed in ' 's because its most certainly designed to be used against we the common folk. They just claim otherwise. Classic bait n switch. We never learn.
     
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