Corbyn is Being Destroyed, Like Blowing Up a Bridge to Stop an Advancing Army <<MOD WARNNG>>

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  1. Striped Horse

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    Jonathan Cook's below article on Corbyn is, for me, a brilliant insight to the true battle taking place and the now irreversible economic tectonic shift that is taking place.

    The article is well worth reading even if one has no interest in Corbyn per se, because Cook's covers the background realities so well. For example"

    "We are now at the point where the corporate elite can see the cracks are widening but they remain in denial. They are entering the tantrum phase, screaming and shouting at their enemies, and readying to implement ever-more repressive measures to maintain their power.

    They have rightly identified social media as the key concern. This is where we – the 99 per cent – have begun waking each other up. This is where we are sharing and learning, emerging out of the darkness clumsily and shaken. We are making mistakes, but learning. We are heading up blind alleys, but learning. We are making poor choices, but learning. We are making unhelpful alliances, but learning.

    No one, least of all the corporate elite, knows precisely where this process might lead, what capacities we have for political, social and spiritual growth.

    And what the elite don’t own or control, they fear.
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    In other words the elites are finished but won't admit it. It's a very dangerous period, psychologically speaking. Because there is the temptation on their part to start a war out of sheer desperation to support the insupportable and thereby create a global waste.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/0...lowing-up-a-bridge-to-stop-an-advancing-army/
     
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    Ah! this the article you were talking about yesterday which you said sounded like the one I was talking about in the other thread. Looks like the same article with a different heading! Excellent article.
     
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    Yep, this is the one...
     
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    No worries... The stone bridge is still unbroken...
     
  5. Striped Horse

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    Very obscure by your usual standards...
     
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    Well
     
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    Frankly it’s no surprise that the slur campaign is in full gear against Corbyn. The English press has always been to the right of the political spectrum. It’s a bit more unusual that the BBC has joined in the slur but I suppose they are thinking of their license fee which is in the Tories power to renew.

    My only wish is for Corbyn to throw his weight behind the mounting call for a re-think on Brextic, I know he has no love of the EU but to leave without any agreement would be disastrous for us’
     
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    Yep, on the BBC. I think they had to accept neocon place men following both the Dr. David Kelly affair of the vile Blair and then more recently, as you say, following the most recent round of License Fee demands. The Beeb as a news source is dead and buried and a wooden stake has to penetrate its heart. I simply won't use it anymore - the propaganda and lies it tells and the dumbing down of its content and the puke engendering wholly empty talking heads it employs to spin on it's behalf.

    If you want I can wax really critical about the Beeb? :laughing:

    I don't agree on Brexit btw. I've got nothing against European nations at all and am rather a Francophile, but also have family who are German citizens. Generally I find Europe impressive and enjoyable and I could easily live there quite happily.

    But my reservations are based more on the less well known history of the EU and the fact that the bureaucrats there are not elected but appointed and are anyway the toy-boys of corporations who command them. I prefer sovereignty and real democracy.
     
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    The Jewish lobby have him in their sights and they are giving him a hammering.
    The conceit he is falling foul of is that being anti zionist is being anti jewish. Being an anti-semite.

    Which of course it is not.

    Corbyn has palled up to every enemy of the UK in his life time bar none. So he is a dead easy target for this stuff.
    Worse for him is that his people have made their way in life riding on the racism ticket. Calling him racist is something he can't defend himself against and it totally tickles his detractors to see him tarred with the same unfair brush that he uses against them.
    Lefty weapons used against the left. Poetic.


    But it is a stitch up all the same. Couldn't happen to a more worthwhile person, but... still a stitch up.
    Taste of his own medicine though. So er... he doesn't deserve it and yet he so richly does.

    Ultimately, who cares? A total ****wit is being eviscerated in public as a result of asking for it all his adult life.
    Noted.
    Injustice noted.
    Irony enjoyed.
    But... boring!
     
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    How can a failure/Nazi be destroyed?
    It's a bit like killing a dead person.

    It gives me hope to see the UK wake up to what I as a Londoner have witnessed with my own two eyes on occasions with this man.

    Jeremy Corbyn, the UK's answer to Adolf Hitler, should **** off to Argentina or Venezuela IMO.

    His favourite country isn't even the UK, it's Venezuela, a country that's arresting employees. A country that is a ****hole with a rapid inflation problem.
    https://www.standard.co.uk/business...s-venezuela-imprisons-employees-a3923591.html
     
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    Just wondering, if the elites are finished what happens next? is that a good thing or bad and why?
     
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    Quite the opposite, a half baked deal with the idiots in Brussels is the worst outcome. Best to kick them into touch.

    Corbyn is brilliant for Labour, he's an utter nutjob and thus making Labour the most unattractive political party on the planet. Result.
     
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    I've long said that they only thing that can help Corbyn at this point is the Conservative Party.
     
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    Well we all know where you are coming from, Do you need a piggy's head to stick anything into?
     
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    You'll have to ask arrogant Cameron.
     
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    I'm a lifelong Labour Party supporter and was a member of the party for over 25 years.

    My first memory of Labour Party activism was in the very early 1970's when my mother used to host local Labour Party gatherings. I started attending constituency meetings on my own in my mid teens, was an activist at university and an officer in my local labour party for over a decade. I've stuck with the Labour Party through the Foot years, watched delighted through the Kinnock and Smith years and was cheered when Tony Blair was elected.

    I left the fold briefly in the aftermath of the Iraq war, a dodgy war based on a dodgy dossier IMO but returned when I took a look at the alternatives.

    Unfortunately the combination of Jeremy Corbyn's sixth-form naivety, pro-Brexit stance, antisemitism, inability to prioritise and willingness to allow Momentum to seize the reins of power in the party have meant that I cannot vote Labour while he is leader and his policies are in force. In the last local elections I even voted Plaid Cymru despite having no interest in Welsh independence. I'm not alone, most the moderate Labour Party voters I know can no longer vote for the party. The only people I know personally who approve of Jeremy Corbyn are a couple of students whose world outlook matches Jeremy's in its naivety and some old Trots who felt that Neil Kinnock was unacceptably right wing and Tony Blair was the devil incarnate - the same old Trots who rendered the party unelectable for the whole of the 80's and who presumably would welcome another return to electoral irrelevance.

    A pox on Jeremy Corbyn and his supporters. They have hijacked the party and denied the British people a functioning opposition during a time of unprecedented governmental incompetence. As much as I hated Margaret Thatcher, I could never accuse her of incompetence - quite the opposite. Corbyn and the Corbynistas have allowed themselves to get sidetracked again and again and have made themselves an easy target of ridicule.

    Without the likes of me - long standing supporters willing to put the hours in pounding the streets in marginal constituencies - the Labour Party will find it difficult to get elected. Then again perhaps that's a good thing because IMO a Corbyn-led government would be incapable of governing.
     
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    I wish we had someone like Corbyn here. Unlike Blair he opposed the terrorist attack on Iraq and stands up for the people of Palestine and working people. The more hysterical the right wing warmongers get in their cowardly smears against Corbyn the less credibility they have.
     
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    That basically is it. The neo liberal Blairites who destroyed Old Labour would prefer to destroy Labour than for Labour supporters to elect who they want and you will not be missed. They have plenty of people to go door stopping. I guess you could always go and tell them to vote Tory. Possibly Gudio Fawkes the guy who started the faux antismemitism claims not infrequently on people who worked all their lives against racism has done his work in destroying any change that might have come. He was of course involved also in getting people to forget what Labour was about and accept New Labour and give up on British Democracy.

    If so, it will just be Independence for Scotland though my daughter was saying last time with the movement of England to the far right we will need to be building Hadrians Wall again.
     
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    Anti-Cornbynstas be like: Screen Shot 2018-08-31 at 06.01.02.png
     
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    Do muslim immigrants receive more money from the government in UK than retired pensioners?
     
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    No, the various welfare payments are the same for everyone, dependent upon which ones are being claimed.
     
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    Well that's one way to turn yourself into a marginalised pressure group - drive away long standing members for a lack of adherence to the cause, and align oneself to the extremists.

    Personally, I think that Momentum vastly overestimate the amount of support they have and have confused intensity of support for breadth of support.

    I guess we'll see over the coming months and years, but Labour's lack of ability to gain support against an incompetent and deeply split Conservative Party isn't encouraging.
     
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    Depending on where they have emigrated from, and their immigration status, Muslim immigrants may not be entitled to any welfare payments.
     
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    There are brits on youtube who says otherwise
     
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