Cornell has problems with the vaccinated

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  1. Daniel Light

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    Your "feelings" don't change the fact that you tried to post a piece of bullcrap and got caught.
     
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    Let's check this again. Denmark has over 80% vaccination rate - no restrictions from entering Sweden.

    Gosh, you think that Sweden might be looking at some other factor than vaccination rate when determining entry visas?
     
  3. Eleuthera

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    I think, I know, that the numbers have been manipulated from the start to keep some folks totally terrorized. It has worked very well.
     
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    There is no comfort in the idea that this virus can change faster than we can adapt weapons to fight it.
     
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    No. It's a simple matter of most Americans now knowing someone who has been hospitalized, or is suffering
    from long term covid, or has died from covid - or all three.
     
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    No doubt about that. At some point we will get a strain of covid that will defy all of our defenses and infect everybody. At that point we will have a genuine herd immunity and the virus will become a seasonal visitor like influenza. That is opinion, lefties. But it is based on my prior education and is shared by many doctors.
     
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    In the meantime, you'll forgive me for not wanting to be a sacrificial lamb in that quest.
     
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    You are certainly forgiven. Unlike the government, I'm not trying to affect behavior. I am just trying to correct the record.
     
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    We reached herd immunity a long time ago, but now all the vaccinated types have become carriers to some degree or another. Even MSM finally admits that 57% of hospitalized in some area had been vaccinated.

    As long as frightened humans keep getting tested with an inaccurate test, those doing the data manipulation will have a job.
     
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    As long as we have lived with this virus it would seem we have all been exposed to it numerous times. It is still weeding out people like me but most of us have developed some degree of immunity. It was never going to kill all of us anyway, wasn't designed to.
     
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    Obviously, what we have been doing in response to the virus is not working and everybody wants more of it. I played along for a while but I can't support wanting more of what we know doesn't work. However, there appears to be some therapeutic benefit to vaccination so I continue to recommend it. It looks like a weaponized virus has set epidemiology on its head.
     
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    I don't see it having any worthwhile therapeutic effect at all, but otherwise I agree with you.

    It is a bioweapon, delivering spike proteins by the trillion. I guess some can handle them better than others.
     
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    The death rate against the delta strain is lower with vaccinated people than with the un-vaccinated. It reduces the severity of the symptoms. That is what most therapeutics do.

    I agree that it is a bioweapon and that has caused some of the confusion among epidemiologists. They can't seem to come to terms with the fact that the normal activities in response to it aren't working. Time to clear the slate and work out a more sensible response to it, whatever that might be. I have some ideas but my ideas carry no weight. It is up to the epidemiologists to expand, explain and implement the new science.
     
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    The dogma from the Biden administration that every American should be vaccinated is disingenuous. First, a fully vaccinated person to Covid can still get Covid (but have milder symptoms). Second, a fully vaccinated person to Covid can pass on Covid. Third, that the Biden Administration is hypocritical in it's vaccination zeal because the administration doesn't demand illegals and refugees that are pouring into the US with the acquiesce of the Biden Administration be vaccinated.:roll:
     
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    My suggestion has always been since March of 2020 to quarantine the most susceptible to Covid (the elderly and those with multiple co-morbidities) and let everyone else go about their daily routines.
    My suggestion since March of 2020 has also always been to prevent the quarantining of the Covid-sick with the non Covid-sick which is something epidemiology should've recommended not to do but epidemiology hasn't recommended not to do.

    Forget about worrying about depleting hospital resources...Ya know, worrying about every Covid infection overloads the hospital system. Besides, hospital resources will never be depleted due to Covid - unless someone is worrying about number of cases.:roll:

    IMO, masks don't work because epidemiology was too overly preoccupied with numbers of cases (still are overly preoccupied).
     
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    Because the numbers have been manipulated severely since this all began, I doubt very much the veracity of your first sentence.
     
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    You probably already know that the injections are not really vaccines in the traditional sense of the word. Maybe that's one reason it's not working very well. It's a scamdemic.
     
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    The death rate for Covid has been low for some time now. The problem is some epidemiolocal morons are still worried about number of Covid cases which continue to rise whether one is fully vaccinated or not.:roll:

    My advice to the epidemiological morons is to concentrate on number of chronic hospitalizations and deaths from Covid and not number of cases.
    Why? Because:
    (1) Worrying about number of cases overloads the hospital system.
    (2) Number of cases is meaningless in the prevention of chronic hospitalizations and deaths.
    (3) Worrying about number of cases destroys economies, destroys psychologies, destroys sociologies and prevents in-school learning for kids.
     
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    The number of cases is actually what matters. Covid's death rate is about the same as that of influenza. It is quite low. The difference is the contagion - the number of cases is what causes the hysteria.
     
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    You're wrong. The majority of people (I'd guess 75%) who get Covid aren't susceptible to Covid.
     
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    What is the meaning of susceptible in your context?
     
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    Chronic hospitalizations and death from Covid exposure. BTW, being hospitalized because one has Covid isn't, IMO, an example of chronic hospitalization due to Covid but hospitalizing one just 'cause one has Covid taxes hospitals' capacity to treat Covid.
     
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    If your point is that hospitals should do a better job of triage, then I agree. If it is something else, then it went over my ability to guess.
     
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    My bottom line is: epidemiological morons should quit concentrating on number of Covid cases since, IMO, approx. 75% of people are not adversely affected from Covid infection.
     
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    And in fact, there is considerable evidence suggesting the phantom virus doesn't even exist as it has not been isolated. If true, that means all the flu from 2020-21 was deliberately called Covid.

    Scamdemic rules.
     

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