Corona Virus Update

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    If we follow your approach, we could easily have more deaths per 100,000 people than we lost in battle in WW2.

    The U.S. has 139,900,000 people in 1945. WW2 cost us 405,000 dead in 3 2/3 years. If COVID-19 deaths reach 951,852, we'll have lost as many per capita.

    405,000 / 139,900,000 = X / 328,800,000 ... X = 951,852

    Your approach could easily cost us 1m people.

    Simple proportion stuff you should have learned in Junior High math.
     
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    I don't think most rich people will get it. They have too many ways to insulate thrmselves.
     
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    The Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe has rejected an ultimatum by South Dakota's governor to remove checkpoints on state highways within tribal reservations or risk legal action.

    Gov. Kristi Noem sent letters Friday to the leaders of both the Oglala Sioux Tribe and the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe demanding that checkpoints designed to prevent the spread of coronavirus on tribal land be removed, the governor's office said in a statement.

    "We are strongest when we work together; this includes our battle against Covid-19," Noem said. "I request that the tribes immediately cease interfering with or regulating traffic on US and State Highways and remove all travel checkpoints."
     
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    Those like Donald Trump?
     
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    I pity your students, to the extent they even exist or ever existed.
     
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    What part confuses you? His logic is easy to follow for most of us.
     
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    That's not how things work in the US - when the state restricts your rights in the name of an 'emergency' , we expect it to soundly justify that restriction each and every day.
     
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    Respond... like interring Japanese-Americans after Pearl Harbor?
     
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    Doesn't confuse me, the made up math is not worth further time, kind of like any of your posts.
     
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    New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said on Sunday that the number of new daily Covid-19 hospitalizations had returned to the level it was at when he issued a statewide closure of nonessential businesses nearly two months ago. Cuomo said that 521 people were hospitalized with the disease on Saturday and 207 died of it. The hospitalization figure, he said, "takes us right back to where we started this hellish journey."
    Sometimes you have to wonder whether reopening for business was a big mistake and staying at home longer would make sense after all. I may look like that we're in for a longer haul and more quarentine to come. It's getting frustrating to know that we have to close down and lock ourselves in our home for a long time to come. would that be worth it? It could take weeks, months, or even years to get over it. The Spanish Flu on 1918 wouldn't last that long. But with this Coronavirus Pandemic going on would there be some permanent changes? It's enough to scare anybody including myself. Is there any end in sight?
     
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    That's not been the case in this country. In fact it's been the opposite. The majority of cases (apart from two clusters in a meat works and an aged care facility) have been in the richest demographics.

    It's our poorest who are remaining relatively lightly impacted.
     
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    How's that working out for the nation in this emergency?
     
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    Lol!

    That is the usual Trump response to facts - rather than mathematically demonstrate the logical errors in the numbers or conclusions, we get "Doesn't confuse me, math is made up and its not worth my time..."


    Yes, indeed, it is quite clear that it doesn't confuse him. Just like a Trump "press conference".
     
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    I suspect that is more of a data problem than reality.

    The poor cannot afford to take the time off to be tested and are just pushing through and essentially ignoring the deaths in their midst as much as they can while the wealthy can afford testing and therefore are being counted.
     
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    Did you notice you did not address what I said?
    I did.
    I bet you did too.
     
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    No, the error is a dishonest omission of context (cherry-picking) making the bogus, purely speculative "math" not just inaccurate, but a purposeful lie of omission. I listed WW2 casualties, then added the qualitative context of those casualties affecting young lives as opposed to old ones near death. Of course in typical "LW-brain" fashion that necessary context was omitted. People -see- that, it's in -print-, it's not some "fast one" that can be gotten away with like a magic trick or speech.

    Moreover, and more importantly, also in typical "LW-brain" fashion, that poster fallaciously responded to a known quantity, documented U.S. WW2 casualties, with a completely bogus extrapolation of FUTURE covid cases pulled right out of their ass. Since anyone with a >80 IQ would see that as fallacious, I needn't do anything other than deride, which I did.

    The omission of necessary context/obvious cherrypicking, together with the other two hallmarks of the effeminate, hysterical U.S. Left of today, 1. Projection, 2. Compound fallacies and a complete lack of understanding of logical reasoning, are the reasons you and yours constantly lose politically despite having numerical superiority and a MSM hegemony.

    TLDR above paragraph? People don't like being BSed OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER thousands of times a day by Leftthink in MSM, here or anywhere else. This Viral Moral Panic is a perfect example. You lot think that because you have the biggest, loudest megaphone at your disposal that means you win. What is actually happening is that the biggest clown in the circus is blasting the biggest clown horn honking through the megaphone, and people see all the clown BS for what it is. Difference is, the LW-Complex Clown Honk on this particular topic is royally ****ing with people's lives and livelihoods without compelling reason.
     
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    I read this article and thought of all the discussions about Trump not being prepared - although he should have been. Worth the read.
    There’s something profound about the irony. The world’s highest coronavirus death tolls belong to two countries whose leaders came to power promising the restoration of greatness and control – the United States and Great Britain. Neither can claim to have been caught by surprise: both nations had the benefit of time, ample scientific warnings, and the cautionary examples of China and Italy.
    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...8WgKFq3KJMPqLL1SGnJhUFyw9UiUlzBW8e6wuJqRQU_Oc
     
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    Interesting. A lot of well-to-do Australians travel. Is that where they got it? I ran into them all over Europe--about as far as they can go away from home.
     
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    Every time I hear Boris speak these days, I wonder if he's got his own his own near-death experience with COVID-19 in the back of his mind. If Trump gets COVID-19, he may not survive given his age and obesity.
     
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    Your scenario is just a feverish, paranoid delusion based on nothing. Sweden has already proven that.
     
  21. Richard Franks

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    https://apnews.com/b2a2add19ce7f4f75f42b29331034706
    Today I found an article where Rural Georgia has it real bad with the COVID-19 pandemic and many of the hospitals have shut down and no doctors to be had in the are and many of the people have the Coronavirus and many are dying. How can anyone explain this?
    'It's gone haywire': When COVID-19 arrived in rural America


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    'It's gone haywire': When COVID-19 arrived in rural America



    By CLAIRE GALOFARO
    May 9, 2020
    https://apnews.com/b2a2add19ce7f4f75f42b29331034706
    DAWSON, Ga. (AP) — The reverend approached the makeshift pulpit and asked the Lord to help him make some sense of the scene before him: two caskets, side by side, in a small-town cemetery busier now than ever before.

    Rev. Willard O. Weston had already eulogized other neighbors lost to COVID-19, and he would do more. But this one stood as a symbol to him of all they had lost. The pair of caskets, one powder blue, one white and gold, contained a couple married 30 years who died two days apart, at separate hospitals hours from each other, unaware of the other’s fate.

    The day was dark. There was no wind, not even a breeze. It felt to some like the earth had paused for this.

    As the world’s attention was fixated on the horrors in Italy and New York City, the per capita death rates in counties in the impoverished southwest corner of Georgia climbed to among the worst in the country. The devastation here is a cautionary tale of what happens when the virus seeps into communities that have for generations remained on the losing end of the nation’s most intractable inequalities: these counties are rural, mostly African American and poor.
     
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    I wasn't thinking of Trump. He takes way too many chances. Rich people will keep their distance.

    What happens if both Trump and Pence get sick? Boris Johnson damn near died and he's twenty years younger than Trump. Are we going to have temporary--or even permanent--President Pelosi? Pence is 60, so he's a reasonably good bet to both survive and perhaps not even have to give up control temporarily.

    What we have going on in this country isn't good. There is an element determined to undermine efforts to control SARS-CoV-2. They may succeed in getting it themselves, becoming part of a the "herd," but they won't get maybe half or more people to visit stores, dine out, travel, or keep the economy going. There will be a lot of people dying and the economy will struggle because Congressional Republicans won't spend enough to keep the economy afloat.
     
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    Your guess is as good as mine
     
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    There's a significant geographic difference in actual spread, which is what accounts for any differences in testing (though testing numbers are still very good in poorer areas). Essentially, the rich dominate the most densely populated parts of the largest cities, while the poor dominate the sparsely populated outer suburbs and rural areas. The rich do the most travelling, and the poor do the least. Etc etc.
     
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    That makes no sense. Rural areas should have the least COVID.
     

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