Corona Virus Update

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  1. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think that’s just for bubonic plague, typhoid and cholera.
     
  2. Richard Franks

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    If it will linger for many years, We can find a way to control it in due time. Right?
     
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    President Trump on Tuesday claimed that he "up-played" the severity of the coronavirus pandemic, despite telling Bob Woodward in March that he "wanted to always play it down."
    The president was asked during an ABC News town hall in Pennsylvania why he minimized COVID-19 when the virus has proved to be particularly lethal for communities of color.
    "I didn't downplay it. I actually, in many ways, I up-played it, in terms of action," Trump said. "My action was very strong."
     
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    Mightn’t be able to. We might just have to drive around it with PPE, lockdowns, school closures and quarantines for major outbreaks. As we did with diphtheria and polio.
     
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    As I have done a fair amount of business directly with China manufacturers- I can say that in my experience they will take every advantage possible if you don't play your cards exactly right. Of course that's commerce, but it's also a reflection of mindset. You assume going in that they will cheat, and with no regrets.

    As to their government, one should look at the history- how they came to power, how they deal with opposition. In America, protestors and whistle-blowers are usually not breaking laws.
    In China- they just disappear. The Chinese virologist who was a lead figure in the virus labs testifies to that; other scientists who spoke up- haven't been seen since; which is why she fled China.
    That's evil to me.
     
  6. Curious Always

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    Someone fact checked that town hall. So many half truths & out right lies. Blech. Not even worth starting a thread. Those who understand the truth already know he lies, and his worshipers literally do not care.
     
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    Read this and you'll think it's best to wear the mask.
    A pastor in Idaho who called himself a "no-masker" during a service and repeatedly questioned the veracity of coronavirus case reporting is in the ICU after contracting Covid-19.
    Paul Van Noy, senior pastor at Candlelight Church in Coeur d'Alene, has spent two weeks in the hospital with a Covid-19 diagnosis, ministry coordinator Eric Reade confirmed to CNN. Five other church staff were infected with coronavirus, too, but they've all recovered, he said.
    In a comment shared through Candlelight Church, Van Noy said he'll soon move out of the ICU into another room in the hospital and then recover at home.
    "At present I feel OK but still need quite a bit of oxygen support -- especially if and when I try to get up out of the bed," he said in a statement through the church.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/17/us/idaho-pastor-covid-masks-trnd/index.html

    It's best to wear the mask when you go into public places. This pastor Van Noy is a little like Trump. Don't you think?
     
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    Like I said. Trump lives in a fantasy world of wishful thinking. LOL
     
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    He is getting his wish. This wasn't mere incompetence or negligence. This was allowed to run rampant by design.
     
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    It does seem like he gets what he wants and that's all I'll say for now.
     
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    Coronavirus is one of the causes of the common cold. Just saying.
     
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    Yep.
     
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    With the country’s coronavirus epicenter now hovering over the Midwest, the number of states “at a tipping point” for COVID-19 infections has jumped from one to six in the past week.

    Americans who live in 33 states — two-thirds of the country — should not be traveling right now, according to the risk-assessment map run by the Harvard Global Health Institute and Brown School of Public Health. The color-coded map provides a simple way for Americans to assess that risk. Each state has a rating of green, yellow, orange or red, based upon the number of new daily cases of Covid-19 per 100,000 people over a seven-day rolling average. States colored red or orange are over the threshold for allowing non-essential travel, according to the scientists.

    Based on the tracker’s latest data, six states — North Dakota, Wisconsin, South Dakota, Arkansas, Missouri and Oklahoma — are now colored red, which means they have 25 or more new positive Covid-19 cases every day per 100,000 people. Those states are “at a tipping point” and should be under stay-at-home orders, according to the Harvard and Brown researchers.

     
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    All red states. Now why do you suppose that is? Who is in charge of this data? Curious...

    https://americankahani.com/lead-sto...of-brown-universitys-school-of-public-health/


    https://globalhealth.harvard.edu/dr...-devastating-loss-in-battle-against-covid-19/
     
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    A student tested positive....ugh...uptick here
     
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    Interesting development-

    Face masks could be giving people Covid-19 immunity, researchers suggest


    Face masks may be inadvertently giving people Covid-19 immunity and making them get less sick from the virus, academics have suggested in one of the most respected medical journals in the world.

    The commentary, published in the New England Journal of Medicine, advances the unproven but promising theory that universal face mask wearing might be helping to reduce the severity of the virus and ensuring that a greater proportion of new infections are asymptomatic.

    It comes as increasing evidence suggests that the amount of virus someone is exposed to at the start of infection - the “infectious dose” - may determine the severity of their illness. Indeed, a large study published in the Lancet last month found that “viral load at diagnosis” was an “independent predictor of mortality” in hospital patients.

    Wearing masks could therefore reduce the infectious dose that the wearer is exposed to and, subsequently, the impact of the disease, as masks filter out some virus-containing droplets.

    Better still, as data has emerged in recent weeks suggesting that there can be strong immune responses from even mild or asymptomatic coronavirus infection, researchers say that any public health strategy that helps reduce the severity of the virus - such as mask wearing - should increase population-wide immunity as well.

    This is because even a low viral load can be enough to induce an immune response, which is effectively what a typical vaccine does.

    Earlier this year, a team of researchers in China found that hamsters housed behind a barrier made of surgical masks were less likely to get infected by the coronavirus. And those who did contract the virus became less sick than other animals without masks to protect them.

    Some observations found in humans seem to support this as well. In a coronavirus outbreak on a closed Argentinian cruise ship, for example, where passengers were provided with surgical masks and staff with N95 masks, the rate of asymptomatic infection was 81 per cent. This is compared with 20 per cent in earlier cruise ship outbreaks without universal masking.

    This idea of 'variolation' - a term originally derived from the smallpox pre-vaccine era - is quite feasible and may add to the protective physical effects of universal masking - by low level stimulation of the wearer's immune system as it is exposed to low levels of airborne SARS-CoV-2, which can induce an immune response but without any overt infection and disease.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...-giving-people-covid-19-immunity-researchers/

     
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    ~ We will see what Sweden decides. Fortunately the government there is respecting personal freedom and not authoritarian panic. { Sept 20 is not old news }
    -- Sweden's strategy emphasising personal responsibility rather than major lockdowns to slow the virus drew fierce criticism as deaths shot up during the spring, but has also been lauded by World Health Organisation officials as a sustainable model.

    Infections dropped significantly in the summer and so far Sweden had been spared the type of sharp increases in new cases seen in Spain, France and Britain in the past month.
    Earlier on Tuesday Stockholm's top health official warned that the region saw an increase in cases. Approximately 1,200 new cases and five deaths have been reported since Friday compared to around 200 cases per day in the last weeks. The increase in new cases cannot solely be explained by increased testing, the Public Health Agency said on Tuesday. New measures for the capital could not be ruled out.
    Sweden has reported 5,870 deaths since the start of the pandemic, many more per capita than its Nordic neighbours but also lower than countries like Spain and Italy that opted for hard lockdowns. – Reuters
     
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    In other words, James - "Please do the right thing to help your fellow countrymen, so we don't have to force you to."

    People should WANT to help in this type of situation. The people who don't want to help are beyond pathetic. It's such a nasty attitude, and, I will no longer respect anyone who treats living humans with such disdain, while claiming a glob of cells that may become a baby, is critical.
     
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    ~ America always does - as we often help the rest of the world as well. I trust that . Government mandates are often not necessary. They are too easily abused.
    Enforcement of traffic laws not withstanding ...
     
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    I see what you did there. Your failure to address the issue doesn't dismiss the fact that you are ignoring the issue.

    Cheers.
     
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    Hear, hear!
     
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    ~ Everyone is doing their part to help. That's not the issue. Misleading "facts " from government officials who are afraid to say "We don't know for certain. We are not sure at this point." is the issue. Goofy mayors and governors who abuse their authority is the issue. Politicizing this virus is the issue. We should do better.
    I get the impression that some here think they are doing a better job of complying with required health standards than others - accusing people of not caring. Bragging about their knowledge and intelligence.
    Go donate plasma , get tested to make a bone marrow donation or volunteer at a homeless shelter. Adopt an abandoned cat at the animal shelter. Help the elderly with shopping. That's what people do where I live. It's the one positive thing I see about this China virus attack. People reaching out to help strangers.

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