Corona Virus Update

What we do know is that it is much more likely than what you proposed.

 

LMAO. Hundreds of studies have been posted.

You sound like Trump - "It's impossible to understand wind."

No, Kreo - masks are not a huge mystery. We know they work. Sheesh.

 

What kind of studies are those?
Yes, it is apparent to anyone that if two people are talking to each other directly masks are better then no masks.
But since no one has studied general effect of not wearing masks all those studies is garbage.

 

Covid-19 cases continue to soar across the country and one top infectious disease expert warned Americans that the next few months will be the "darkest of the pandemic."
Health experts say the predicted fall surge is here, and rising cases across the US appear to bear that out. The US is averaging more than 55,000 new cases a day, and 10 states reported their highest single-day case counts on Friday. At least 27 states are showing an upward trend in the number of cases reported, according to a CNN analysis of data from Johns Hopkins University.
"The next six to 12 weeks are going to be the darkest of the entire pandemic," Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, told NBC's"Meet the Press" on Sunday.
Osterholm highlighted the 70,000 cases of Covid-19 reported on Friday, which matched the largest number seen during the peak of the pandemic. Between now and the holidays, the US will see numbers "much, much larger than even the 67 to 75,000 cases," he said.

 

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Mandy Rong was terrified her 12-year-old daughter had COVID-19. It was 2 a.m. and the young girl was hours into a fierce fever and a racking cough. She was weak and didn’t want to eat. What few medications were on hand had expired. She sipped warm water instead.
“Mommy, why are my eyes on fire?” asked Amy Rong.


The mother and daughter, along with Rong’s parents, live in an 80-square-foot windowless single-room-occupancy Chinatown building that is a home of last resort for many impoverished Asian immigrants. Hallways are cramped, bathrooms and kitchens are communal. A ripe setting for the spread of the highly contagious novel coronavirus.
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Dr. Eric Cioe-Peña and his wife come from large families and typically split the holiday festivities, getting together with one group of relatives for Thanksgiving and another one at Christmas.





This year, they’ll reluctantly keep their distance from both. "We’re going to have to make sacrifices," said Cioe-Peña, an emergency room physician and director of Global Health at Northwell Health in New Hyde Park, New York. "My wife and I decided this year’s going to be nuclear family, and we’re not inviting anybody over."

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As the holidays approach and the number of coronavirus cases surge, millions of Americans will face the decision of whether to eschew traditional gatherings with family and friends or risk spreading the virus among loved ones.

Anthony Fauci, the nation’s foremost authority on infectious diseases, and Robert Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, warned about the potential for a spike in infections stemming from holiday parties, even if they’re small and only among relatives.

Memorial Day get-togethers were partly blamed for an increase in COVID-19 cases the USA experienced early in the summer. Events such as a Sweet 16 party late last month in Long Island, New York – linked to 37 positive tests – and a wedding in August in Maine – which led to more than 175 infections – underscore the danger of relatively small social functions turning into superspreaders.

Last week, health officials in the Washington area said small gatherings have been a factor in the region hitting a two-month high in coronavirus cases.

"All along, there have been issues about attending weddings, funerals, religious gatherings and other events that are part of our normal life," said Dr. Steven Woolf, director emeritus of the Center on Society and Health at Virginia Commonwealth University. "They bring people together and potentially become vectors for the virus. As many public health experts mention, the virus is attending these events and can be transmitted from person to person."

 

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday expanded how it defines a "close contact" of someone with Covid-19 as it released new evidence showing the coronavirus can be passed during relatively brief interactions.

Previously, the CDC described a close contact as someone who spent 15 minutes or more within six feet of someone who was infectious. Now, the agency says it’s someone who spent a cumulative 15 minutes or more within six feet of someone who was infectious over 24 hours, even if the time isn’t consecutive, according to an agency spokesperson.

Close contacts are those who are tracked down during contact tracing and are recommended to quarantine.

The announcement from the CDC comes as scientists described in a new study how a correctional officer in Vermont appears to have contracted the coronavirus during "multiple brief encounters" with six incarcerated people who had Covid-19. The infected people were awaiting the results of their Covid-19 tests while the interactions happened.

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In the study, the authors — including officials from the CDC and Vermont’s health and corrections departments — noted that the data for defining a close contact have been limited. "A primary purpose of contact tracing is to identify persons with higher risk exposures and therefore higher probabilities of developing infection, which can guide decisions on quarantining and work restrictions," they wrote, adding that "public health officials should consider transmission-risk implications of cumulative exposure time within such settings."

 

You "know" they work like people "knew" the earth was the center of the universe.

Cognitive dissonance is a powerful phenomenon in the human mind.

 

Last week health officials said that?

Wow, quite a few years ago public officials told us there were WMD in Iraq and we needed to spend blood and treasure because of that.

Before that, public officials told us Vietnam was a domino and we needed to spend blood and treasure to change that fiction.

More recently, public officials told us that Russia stole Hillary's election from her. LOL, likely you still believe that.

The moral of the story is that public officials are notorious liars. When everything the American people believe is false, public officials will know the success of their misinformation efforts.

 

I think what's missing here is the number of small gatherings that did NOT have such bad results. Thousands are going unreported because covid wasn't there. Families are still getting together with no bad infections.

 

Yes, slowly but surely the herd immunity is growing, despite the protestations of MSM and evangelists for the official fear narrative.

 

Good point. It is always the sensational that sells.

 

This is true, and there's no way to monitor it. When we gather with friends, we stay outside and sit apart from each other. It's generally very windy in our backyard, which is another helpful thing. We never have more than four in the pool at any one time, and we aren't sharing food IE platters. We generally are getting individual sandwiches and chips, from our favorite sub shop, for our gatherings.

We have no had more than 5 guests at any one time since March.

As long as people are smart about it, gatherings shouldn't be an issue. It's the standing shoulder to shoulder without masks that causes issues.

We're mostly completely open here in the Ft Lauderdale area. I very rarely see someone without a mask. Once in awhile someone is not covering their nose. People are being respectful about personal space in the stores. I haven't been to a store or drive through where this isn't a plexiglass barrier between cashier and customer.

 

I saw something on my news feed the other day about how mouthwashes and oral rinses can kill the virus, though obviously not once it's "set in" on a person.

Anyway, it got me to thinking about something that had crossed my mind before, though I never dwelled on it. Mouthwash has alcohol in it. Hand sanitizer has alcohol in it, yet we are told that bars, that serve .... doh ..... alcohol! .... are the worst places to be.

 

Those are the facts that are true.

 

U.S. hits all-time high in daily new coronavirus cases

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...9.CQ1XVyvLZqH-bDW3v9FcSRlNlMMw94RIsJDiavCJ998



If only there was some LEADERSHIP

 

If Trump were to have wanted for the COVID-19 to go away, He would have done something about it back in March and maybe there wouldn't be as many casualties like there is now. If he hasn't done anything back then, Don't bet on him doing it now

 

His whole attitude to the pandemic has been callous, and almost indifferent. Wonder: did his wife get the top of the line therapeutics too?? His son?/ He never mentions them........ as if they are just window dressing. That too speaks to the character of the man. He can't seem to wrap his brain around the fact that people are suffering...........and many will have residual problems that could last for a longtime. His lack of human compassion is part of his psychopathic narcissism. He should have been touched on some caring level when he had the virus himself. Yet he came back with only more bluster , belligerent , and arrogance. Something is very wrong with that picture. How much worse does it have to get before reality hits him?? Does he not realize that a population getting sicker and sicker is unable to retore the economy ...........seeing as the economy is his main interest.

 

What should President Trump have done back in March?


Moi

Quarantine ​

 

I see today that the US just added 70 thousand new cases in one day while the president is claiming that we've rounded the turn. He is just too stupid to be president.

 

Inotice you are ret from the medical profession. ( Moi is a ret RN )

How about being consistent in the messaging for starters. Being emphatic and consistent about having everyone wear masks. Social distancing . Itis a respiratory issue........ so masks are (or should be mandatory) Fines for not wearing them. This is a health crisis that has been morphed into a political one..........and this has gone out of control. You can't just focus on a vaccine......that will take time to achieve. He should not rush it for political purposes .

Trump should NOT be hosting super spreaders. That is just common sense. He has been very immature and irresponsible abou tal this.

 

Hei s also too SELF centered. He is not a peple person. True leadership requires integrity, compassion, and understanding . Everything is centred on "what is in it for him". Some folks like that.

 

@Sallyally is our Board's, R.N. ret.

I am truly a retired M.D.


Otherwise, thank you for a reasonable & on quote topic reply.
Consider State governments could have done what you suggest.


Moi

Don't ize
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Nice to meet you. There are two other physicians that I have" met" on here so far. Hmm. Now there are two Ret RNs on here.......that we know of

 

What is it you think he should have done?