Corona Virus Update

Here, for two years we have been assured NOBODY reported as dying from Covid died with Covid. If anyone questioned this, they were chastised as kooks and conspiracy theorists. It’s hard for me to accept that now all deaths are with Covid and no reported deaths are from Covid. It seems to me whether a person is vaccinated or not can’t obscure telltale signs of Covid like cytokine storm, unique Covid ARDS, and damage to organs seen in autopsy unique to Covid. Either doctors can tell if someone died of Covid or they can’t. For two years here we were assured they could. I don’t buy that now all the sudden they can’t. Seems funny doctors in different countries have differing abilities to determine Covid deaths as well.

I believe it’s very important to know infection and case fatality rates during a pandemic. I also believe it’s very important to know where excess deaths are coming from when there is a novel infectious disease on the loose that is keeping innumerable people from seeking medical attention for other diseases like cancer, heart disease, etc. It’s very important to know if people are dying of Covid or with Covid at every point in a pandemic. It’s no wonder so many people have ended up dead from this thing…nobody has any idea what’s really killing people.

So all vaccinated Covid deaths are end of life? Interesting. Is there anything besides opinion to substantiate that claim? It’s good all that was possible was done. It isn’t here.

Yes they are unaware of specifically how important such simple things as adequate sleep and not eating processed meats are at preventing Covid infection and severe disease. I can’t count the number of times I’ve been called a liar and purveyor of misinformation for putting that information out on PF. Not only is it not known, it’s resisted vehemently when mentioned.

LOL. You adopted the Trump method of decreasing cases! I can’t understand the thinking of continuing these policies. Covid is here to stay. It’s highly contagious and current vaccines can not prevent transmission so it’s time to stop pretending and get on with life.

Interesting. I guess hospitals will be overworked forever if all positive employees go home and they admit mild cases.

I suppose someday data will have to be made public. Probably after it’s irrelevant for use in making good healthcare decisions.

 

By definition that's what vaccines do.

 

I guess it comes down to how you decide cause of death.
My dad died in Nov 2019 (aged 92) from multiple organ failure. He only had one kidney having lost the other to disease, he had no large bowel having lost that to infection, his heart was labouring at 15% of normal. For three months the doctors juggled between drugs for this deficiency that then effected that organ and drugs for that organ that then caused this side effect, round and round until they gave up and said there was nothing they could do. If he had caught Covid in those three months and it finished him off should that be recorded as cause of death?
For me he answer is no.

As for how it was reported, in the middle of the pandemic I am sure the situation I describe happened many times to various degrees and that in the manic situation we saw many were simply put down to Covid.
Now we are seeing a much weaker strain of Covid and with less pressure on the health services I think it becomes easier to define.
The bit I do agree with you on is where you were repeatedly assured that all recorded deaths were directly from Covid, in my opinion that is an impossible claim. But as I say, you can do a reasonable comparison between historical morbidity figures and those in the pandemic.

I believe its more important to save as many people as possible and to stop spread as much as possible. Accurate recording comes a very poor third for me. Even with all the restrictions and lockdowns in the UK, Covid still managed to kill 140,000 people, god knows what that number would have been if we hadn't taken action. So I don't think your idea of a more measured response is feasible or preferable.

That's America for you.

No idea about Trump. We are still recording 'Anyone who died within 28 days of a positive death.'
Omicron is highly infectious but not highly deadly, so yes I think its time to get on with ,life.

It has to stop, but as public servants get paid to stay at home the pressure not to change is enormous.

I guess someday we will get it all, when its no longer expedient for people to follow the narrative. My concern here is that the narrative is now being lead by those with a vested interest. For instance those not wishing working conditions to return to normal are those in control of the graphs we see.
Here is a classic my wife (an intelligent woman) showed me with a concerned statement that deaths were climbing rapidly.
On the left the graph they published (she showed me). On the right the graph they used to publish (the red square is the bit they showed.

Its an old sales manager trick, you show the board a limited amount of data to paint a different reality.
And even the upturn they did show is fake. They have stopped recording deaths over the weekend, so you get a sudden increase in recorded deaths on a Monday now and that's when they publish the graph. Its infuriating to be treated like idiots.

 

FINALLY...


It only took over 2 ****ing years and wrecking the global economy for years to come to finally get to the SAME ****ING PLACE I and many others were saying from the beginning.

Ultimately the virus is not going away and it needs to be left up to PERSONAL RESPONSABILITY...

I should be a ****ing lead virologist. What a clown show.

 

You do realise that Omicron is not Delta don't you? That the virus mutated as a result of the vaccine and has moved from being a chest infection to a nose and throat infection.
That's why we can now live with it.

 

FDA authorizes first breath test to detect Covid, with results available in about 3 minutes

The Food and Drug Administration on Thursday authorized the first Covid-19 test that uses breath samples. The FDA said the test, which must be done by a trained operator, can provide a result in around three minutes. A positive result should be confirmed with a molecular test, the agency said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...ArA0Kg5iVd8z7oL0Ca8XUSdpN5jbNHAP8Ak0uEQoQAQAA

 

Says who? Who says it mutated BECAUSE of the vaccine?

Most mutations are random - copy errors or incident radiation.

 

ALL mutations are random. The reason some survive and some don't is due to outside circumstances. In this case the vaccine was very effective at attacking the long protein spike on the Delta variant. But a mutation with a shorter protein spike was less effected and thrived becoming the dominant variant.
However the shortened protein spike is not as good at infecting the lungs which makes it a considerably less deadly disease infecting mostly the nose and throat.

 

What restrictions do you still have in place for those testing positive?

 

Lol… virus mutate but leftists insisted that we continue to inject the same snake oil even knowing that the virus mutate and at the same time using mutate as an excuse for rise in case but yet, refused to say the old vaccine ain’t working.

 

I like the idea that doctors and scientists are leftist, makes sense if we assume you intelligence represents rightists.
They continue to vaccinate against Delta because that is what is stopping it.

 

U.S. surpasses 1 million Covid deaths, a once-unthinkable scale of loss

The United States surpassed 1 million Covid-19 deaths on Wednesday, according to data compiled by NBC News. “Each of those people touched hundreds of other people,” said one widow. “It’s an exponential number of other people that are walking around with a small hole in their heart.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...aGOMFeLYIZ4lzXjmhjWFyLCkr15tcKHj9C66f1uIcAQAA
Wonder what the number would be if there had been no anti vax, anti mask, anti mandate and general lack of cooperation with health recommendations.. behavior.& attitudes......

just musing....

 

Biden’s $33 billion “emergency” military aid package for Ukraine is three times the size of the EPA’s entire budget for 2022. This is on top of another $14 billion in add to the Ukrainian Nazis totaling around $47 billion dollars.

Elon Musk’s bid for Twitter: $44 billion
Biden’s Climate budget fighting climate change: $44.9 billion.

 

Imagine spending billions on something you cannot control.
Imagine sending aid that will be washed through criminal organizations.

Bye-done is re-imagining spending money.
Thank goodness he's building back better.

 

They don't like Science.
Only $¢ience.

 

99% of Covid infections is now being attributed to Omicron. Omicron became the dominant strain because it spread the fastest and out competed Delta. Furthermore, even Dr. Bill Gate$ says it's the best vaccine. I think so too. I got it after two doses of the Pfi$er va¢¢ine and have never felt better and safer.

 

So the virus did what almost all viruses in history did, mutate down in severity to stick around longer? So if we protected vulnerable from the beginning and didn't shut everything down our economy wouldn't have suffered as much?

And now Bye-done wants to give the WHO, a group of private non-elected idiots who screwed everything up by helping China cover up their mistake power over future "pandemics"



just in time for Dr. Bill Gate$ new book release?



after he tells us what most "tin-foil hat conspiracy theorists" have been saying since the beginning?



and these idiots wonder why trust in their agenda has deteriorated?




Also announced just in time to hand over the WHO complete control

https://twitter.com/efenigson/status/1528492490709520384

https://twitter.com/TruthBoost_/status/1528257624621297664

I completely expect pharma shills like @CenterField to say it's all a "theory" demonstrating a complete lack of understanding of this word, including "conspiracy". Duh....

 

The vaccine did for Delta. Omicron avoided the vaccine by having a shorter protein spike, this made is more difficult to infect the lungs, making it an upper respiratory disease, less deadly but more easily spread.

Really? What about Small pox, Measles, Ebola, Rabies, Hiv..
The vaccine did for Delta.

 

Said who?

 

what do you mean "said who"?
Said everyone, the vaccine worked, no one with a mind doubts that.

 

You're a classic Corona Astrologer. You meant to say "no minds"

The data is clear. Those with vax, boosted, etc, still get and pass it on. It's not even deniable, except to the no minds.

 

We have 1 million dead Americans from Covid. And the typical casket is 18 inches tall.

If you stacked all of the caskets from the Covid dead in a pile, it would be about 284 miles high.

That puts it about 30 miles higher than the space station.

 

Cause if you can't Trust the CDC, who can ya trust! right? Flip Flop faccui

 

Yes, you can trust Fauci and the CDC, That is correct,

Who do you trust, Alex Jones?.