Corporate Republican solutions to living on part-time minimum wages

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  1. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its great when our corporate masters put their endless supplies of economic specialists and financial whiz kids to work on the problem of their millions of employees to the problem of existing on minimum wages (or far less than minimum wage, if it weren't for those namby-pamby commie Leftists who take away corporate freedoms with selfish regulations!)

    So kick back and bask in the wisdom granted workers by our political and business leaders! With some simple acts like paying nothing for heat or healthcare AND having a full-time job to supplement your part time Mcdonald's or Walmart 35 hour per week career, life in America couldn't be better!

    [video]http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/427948/july-22-2013/minimum-wage---mcdonald-s-spending-journal[/video]
     
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    Welcome to Progressive America. It has been the focus of Progressives to drive down the standard of living here in the USA through policies like NAFTA, China trade and offshoring/outsourcing. It's known to the bobble heads as Social Justice....
     
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    Ok, lets say I agree, the min wage is too low, but instead of $15/hr I think the min should $25/hr.....maybe even $35/hr...why not...I mean why should the folks who've graduated form HS and/or college make more $$$?
    In fact, why not just let government set limits on earning at both ends of the scale so no one in the private sector can be paid more than 1mil a year and no can earn less than say, $100K. It's not fair the 1mil earner gets 6/8/10 weeks of vacation either, so lets make that more fair by mandating all workers get a min of 3 weeks. Is that fair?
    That was fun.
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That argument is as old as the hills. No one thinks like that. When I was 20 minimum wage was $5 an hour. Now it is $7+ in most places. I could get a full tank of gas and 4 packs of smokes for $20 back then. Now that same purchase is $60. Our whole society has turned into a mirror image of the old "company store" scam that plagued miners at the turn of the previous century. That was an isolated incident that became illegal. Maybe it is time to just burn this whole thing down. Make it so no one makes ANY money. Then maybe you'll care.
     
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    Welcome to Conservative America. It has been the focus of Conservatives to drive down the standard of living here in the USA through policies like NAFTA, China trade and offshoring/outsourcing. It's known to the conservatives as Social Justice...
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it is safe to say both sides are guilty, and since both bases are unhappy and pointing the finger at their counterparts, no one is truly being represented by our elected officials. And since our only recourse, voting, isn't changing anything, what does that leave for the citizenry to do? Hmmm....
     
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    To compete with the Chinese, American workers must accept wages like the Chinese. Failing that, we can charge far more for products without proportional increases in quality, and go broke. Failing that, we can let the Chinese manufacture stuff while we produce knowledge through scientific research. But the Chinese are doing that better also.

    I'd be amazed if the Chinese couldn't also run a cleaner, faster, cheaper McDonalds.

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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or we could put tariffs on imports, that combined with transportation costs, make an American company have to do the math and see which is the most viable way to make money. Japanese and German companies are making plants here. The reason why Chinese companies aren't is because there is no genuine Chinese firms. It is a country of contracted sweatshops and nothing more. The imports from places such as Japan and Germany are actual their products. The products coming from China are American products made by Chinese. We are being screwed by our own elite, via our government for hire to the highest bidder. Sure, some motives are financial, and some are of some great "the earth is one nation" BS philosophy. But it doesn't change the fact all are traitors.
     
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    You must know that is a cop out. I vote mostly for Democrats because they are closer to my Green Party ideals. There is a difference between parties, no matter how small you think it is. Becoming a "not me!" person means that you rather sit on the sidelines. I don't like the 2 party system and wish that there were influential 3rd and 4th parties. But I recognize today's situation and work through it for changes.
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please, the time for all of that was 100 years ago. Clinton signed in NAFTA and the China trade deal. You have no one on your side. I could easily say your course of action is a cop out for people too scared to actually Taliban up and fight. Bridges start coming down and you'll see change real fast.
     
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    I am for tariffs that punish the trade breakers. I also want every "Free Trade" agreement to be rewritten into "Fair Trade" agreements. Our standard of living should be recognized in every agreement and the purpose of the agreements is to raise the standard of living in other countries, not just to make money for international companies. We have countries restricting our products in their country. We should do the same here. Tariffs can also hurt the companies taking their business off shore and overseas.
     
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    I'd like to see Obama's solutions to living on part-time minimum wages since he is putting so many people there on account of ObamaCare.

    Wait a minute, I know what it is - go on welfare and become dependent on Obama & Co.
     
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    The massive corporate move to all part time workers was occurring LONG before Obama even had the nomination for president, much less the fault of Obamacare.
     
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    While this is true, one can only trust the perspective of those who acknowledge the entire 2 party system is a scam at this point. Do you acknowledge the scam?
     
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    Or we could just use history as an example and use the minimum wage from the period of the greatest growth in the American economy, i.e. the two to three decades after WW2.

    This would mean the minimum wage would be $10 to $12 per hour, and Mcdonald's would have 1.3 BILLION dollars in profits instead of $1.4 BILLION dollars in profit. And the American economy would improve significantly.
     
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    So far his solutions have been to mandate they purchase healthcare or pay a fine, (money out of their pockets)...and repeal the tax credit (more money out of them) just to name a couple. Seems to me his plan is while they're down, why not kick them and see how much more change falls out of their pockets.
     
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    Oh it is MUCH worse than that. The entire "liberal vs conservative" argument is a sham perpetrated on the gullible.

    This is really about class warfare, one that can't be won because somehow the rich have tricked so many into believing that they are on THEIR side , both "left" and "right" when the reality is they would spit on 90% of the people who vote for them if they could do so without repercussion.

    The saddest part is the average American has dumbed himself down and has no one else to blame.
     
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    There's no question ObamaCare is reducing people to part-time employment. What's Obama's brilliant advice to all the people he screwed? Did they even get an apology out of that power-grubbing Alinskyite?
     
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    Ah, yes - the Great Defender of the Working Man™. :roll: The same statist pretender who fired and furloughed working men and women under his cynical sequester plan so he could protect his party's entitlement-based vote-buying racket.
     
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    Actually, it would work, as long as we have tariffs to keep the useless segment of the investor class from moving our economy off shore.
     
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    It's sad to think that the loony left-wing nuts get their information from a comedian.

    Our Nation is doomed.
     
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    The people who reduce their workers to part-time should be penalized. If you need 240 man hours to run your business, hire 60 people.

    Damned investor class just looking for another excuse not to pay the true value of labor.
     
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    True value of labor ? A monkey and a machine can replace the bulk of our uneducated workers who demand more and more of everyone else and less of themselves . Businesses are created to pay low iq workers .
     
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    The real problem isn't the fact that federally mandated minimum wage jobs pay about #7/hor, it is the fact that many people in these type of jobs are supporting faimilies of two or more and are aged well beyond the teenage jobs. We have forgotten, buth worker and employer, that these jobs were intended for the yonkers, or youing ones, not adults who have achieved zero job skills to help pay for their living expenses.
     
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    It's sad to think that the loony right-wing nuts really get their information from COMEDIANS. The left gets the satire of the comedians. The right, not so much with their comedians.
     

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