Cost to land and refuel Beech Jet owned by one man

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you are in the Boston area, try to land and fuel up someplace else.
    See Boston is a Democrat stronghold.

    Greg the owner pilot of a Beech Jet reports his fees as follows.
    Landing Fee $62.14
    Handling Charge $655.00
    Massport GA Fee $77.00
    Sec Screen Chg $85.00
    Airport Parking $147.40
    Infrastructure Fee $25.00
    Fuel Charge for 250 gallons $2017.50

    So what did he pay at Boston Logan Airport

    $3069.04

    He flew there from Indiana i believe.

    Whom among you can afford such fees to land at an airport?
     
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    If your pilot lands at an International Airport, like Logan, at a private FBO, then you have to expect higher fees.
    Anyone who has concerns on fees would land at a smaller Regional Airport.

    This has nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans, Robert. Give it a rest.
     
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    Greg is not my pilot. Greg is a very interesting person. Greg flew in the Air Force as a pilot of the F-16 for 10 years.

    Greg's father started a firm that makes Medical equipment rooms. Those are trucked to places like hospitals who lease them.
    Greg did not say he was to expect so much costs to land and refuel with jet fuel. Jet fuel is a lower grade than auto fuel.
    Greg no doubt flew to boston to help get a medical lab installed.

    So the costs to you are what you would happily pay?
    Greg is all over YouTube as Premier 1 driver. If you want to know about flying jets, a good site to watch.
     
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    I spend a lot of time at FBOs. Smaller regional airports are much cheaper than anything at a large International airport like Logan. He
    could have landed at Manchester or Beverly and paid much less.
    Pilots know this. So I'm not getting the problem here. He decided on the more expensive route.
     
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    Greg sounds like a good pilot. He surely knew about fees at the airport before he landed there didn't he? And if he was carrying critical medical supplies did he ask for special treatment? I'd be interested to know.
     
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    Are you justifying the overpricing at Logan?
     
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    I was able to locate using just Google to see the fees charged at Logan.

    Greg flies a lot and flies in a airplane that probably cost him close to 2 million dollars. I would expect as many airports as Greg flies to, he knows costs very well.

    Logan per gallon of Jet Fuel is now more than what Greg paid.
    Greg paid then $8.07 per gallon and met the minimum purchase rules.
    Based on 450 annual owner-operated hours and $4.25-per-gallon fuel cost, the BEECHCRAFT Premier IA has total variable costs of $632,925.00, total fixed costs of $203,416.00, and an annual budget of $836,341.00. This breaks down to $1,858.54 per hour.

    Ownership and Operating Costs | BEECHCRAFT Premier IA
    www.aircraftcostcalculator.com › AircraftOperatingCosts
     
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    Why are you at FBOs a lot of the time?
     
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    Robert, If your pilot flew into Logan, he probably used a private FBO to refuel and paid their landing fees.
    International airports have tremendous overhead compared to smaller regional airports. It is what it is.
     
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    I fly a lot in private aircraft. All us Illuminati do.
     
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    Rich people.
     
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    I agree he used one of the available fueling firms to refuel. Logan publishes it's figures and Greg has all bells and whistles one can imagine in his Beech Premier 1 airplane. What you state is well known.

    I do not care what Greg's costs are. I do care what happens to pilots who are not rich when they land at Logan.

    I used to fly in and out of two international airports. Oakland CA and San Jose CA. Fuel at both airports was in line with prices at Hayward Airport which is a field with a good amount of traffic there.

    Let's check fees and fuel prices at Hayward Airport.


    https://www.hayward-ca.gov/sites/default/files/airport/2020-21 Master Fees.pdf

    Fuel prices are so much lower than at Boston Logan Rather than $8.21 per gallon. Hayward shows per gallon $3.85

    https://www.globalair.com/airport/hayward-executive-hwd.aspx#fuel
     
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    Well and good. This time please respond to the actual question.

    I will repeat it. Are you justifying the overpricing at Logan
     
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    Can you afford to pay $3609 per landing at Logan airport?
     
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    I am not flying a private Jet airplane of any type. I am sure you can prove I bitched.

    PS that would counter your claims totally.

    When Trump lands his own jet at Logan, should he pay what Premier 1 driver paid or more?

    Greg flies his own airplane. Trump has one or more pilots who fly Trumps own jet.

    Greg flies as the pilot. Trump is a passenger in his own luxury jet airplane.
     
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    So some random guy who doesn’t cite his sources thinks he knows how much a private plane costs to land at Logan airport? Without citing what other airports cost?

    Come on op! Come up with something better.
     
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    Robert, put it this way, the people who land at Private FBO's at major airports are the same people renting a 160 foot yacht for $350,000 a week - and
    that doesn't include fuel. If you can afford a private jet for $5 million, then you need to be able to afford the 10% per year maintenance fees.
    It's a given. The insurance at FBOs is astronomical, and paying $3,500 for landing and fueling costs at an International Airport is not
    out of line. Hell, standard fee for renting a private helicopter with pilot is $100 for every 7 minutes and that doesn't include airport
    landing fees.

    Again, if cost is a factor, you don't land at major International airports like Logan - you find a nearby regional airport (there are plenty) to land at.
     
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    Clarify your claims please.

    Who is the so called random guy? Who did not cite sources? What sources do you want cited? Thinks he knows? He or me, gave you the prices as I froze the video to copy each cost down. I learned it cost Greg $3906 for that one landing and wonder who among you can afford to pay that much for one landing at some airport?
     
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    So you can afford to pay $3609 per landing at Logan international? If you are not admitting that, why lecture me when I know what you are claiming and do not disagree with your comments.
     
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    Robert, you started this thread to complain about landing fees at Logan, without ever researching other International Airport fees, or even knowing
    that private jets like the one you are talking about use the private FBOs that you see around the edges of such airports for fueling
    and ground time fees. If you are landing at the International airports you have to expect that your landing fees are going to be higher than normal when
    compared to the thousands of regional airports.

    You started this thread with no understanding of the subject matter - don't yell at me for trying to educate you a little. I've got hundreds of hours
    of flight time out of airports in private aircraft - from both regional and International airports. I've seen the money they put into most FBOs and
    it's much higher for International airports because they cater to larger aircraft. It is what it is.
     
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    Wrong as usual Daniel.

    I prefer honest discussion and not personal attacks. And your false claims about me won't fly either.

    I see you do not say you are a pilot. I happen to be a pilot who has landed at many airports.

    Since you made up a story about me, how does it end?

    Daniel, stop assuming.

    You did not educate me at all on anything.

    I informed you and apparently you do not enjoy being informed.
     
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    Yeah basically this entire post needs sources.

    What video? Who is Greg? How does he know what they cost? Why should we trust Greg? What do other airports cost?
     
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    No, but then I'm not rich. For rich people that's small change.
     

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