Could a real estate boom plus better Fed policy pay off USA national debt?

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    Yes, Christianity not only has clean hands but introduced the concept to the world. Did you forget that before we were Christians were we Romans?
     
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    its certainly is not good. There is no free lunch although stupid liberals always imagine that magical govt can create a free lunch. We got from stone age to here thanks to the Republican supply of new inventions. Growth in the future can only come from the same source. Econ. 101
     
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    I guess that depends on who the "we" you are talking about are, but you seem to ignore that the Romans were a party of God as well. They had several of them, as did the Greeks. It was pretty cool that they would climb the steps to the Temple of Apollo and base public policy off a priest's interpretation of the babblings of a slave chained to columns huffing toxic volcanic gases.
     
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    We can worry about that when it happens.
     
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    "Could a real estate boom plus better Fed policy pay off USA national debt?"

    As I see it the debt will NEVER be paid off, and the intent of government including the Fed is to make it appear acceptable as a result of inflation while ignoring the consequences imposed upon the people, primarily the middle class taxpayers.

    Essentially, the answer to the OP question is an emphatic NO.
     
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    And actually, the more the Fed tries to pump up the real estate market (artificially), the more inflation there will be. When they "expand the money supply" by buying up more mortgage equity (essentially putting more money out there to be lent out and driving up prices), there will also be more dollars, dollars that won't be secured by an equal ratio of assets as before, because you can't change market rates without a cost having to be incurred somewhere, that's just a fact of economics.

    If inflation starts going up, lenders will catch on and start demanding higher interest rates, the debt could start spiraling out of control. Well, maybe not spiral out of control, but it would be virtually impossible for the inflation to catch up with the rising interest rates. Essentially you're not going to really get anywhere with the debt levels.
     
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    that was pagan; nothing remotely like our Christian God who through Jesus and martin Luther taught perhaps 1 billion people the 10 Commandments with the promise of heaven and hell and thus created morality as we know it today.
     
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    could be paid off in 4 years by switching to capitalist health care and thus dropping prices to normal world levels. Liberals lack IQ to understand capitalism so it cant happen.
     
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    I think you overestimate how much the government spends on healthcare expense a year by a magnitude of at least 5
     
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    On the other hand we are in a Jubilee Year,
    according to Rabbi Judah ben Samuel so something usual may
    begin this year, ( my understanding is that since Jubilee is proclaimed on the fast
    of Yom Kippur, it must end the day before Yom Kippur in the following year.)

    Proclaiming Jubilee.... might be a good way use some of that two to 4.3 trillion US that might hit the markets one of these years?

    Pope Francis.... The Donald is preparing America for Jubilee!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...nald-is-preparing-america-for-jubilee.447338/
     
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    about 10k per head

    AustriaDenmark
     
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    How about citing these normal world levels. And the system in place. Most of the 1st world countries have gov't healthcare. And those would be normal world prices.
     
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    That and.......

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04
     
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    To the buddahists and hindus and every other non abraham religion, your god is pagan. That would be more than 1/2 the world.
     
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    only about 29% of that number is paid by Uncle Sam so roughly $3K per head.
     
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    It is being found out that even the music that we choose to listen to can affect our DNA.... so can the words that we use........ and how we use them........

    Also.... scientists already know how to cure many serious diseases through genetic manipulation........ and the Cyrus calling on President Trump could mean that some of this information will come out soon......

    http://www.thesecret.tv/
     
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    they would have to collect all that is paid and redistribute in voucher form
     
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    You have never noticed that people from the same family tend to more often than not die in about the same age range (assuming no accidents, etc) despite their lifestyles and access to medicine? Everybody at work has families that live to be around 100. Mine lives to be in the upper 70's so I tell my coworkers I have 30 years of To Do's saved up for them.
     
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    Doesn't sound very capitalist to me.
     
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    True.... that is an important part of what has been happening but I did begin
    a number of topics over on the "Health Care" forum here that I felt have a lot of potential
    to alter the health / longevity formula.


    Cancer cells.....cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...the-presence-of-high-levels-of-oxygen.444650/



    Why would Dr. Ben Carson make such claims?
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ake-such-claims.453165/page-2#post-1067662435


    Trace minerals and longevity + health?
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/trace-minerals-and-longevity-health.441455/
     
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    yes, we pay 3-4 times more for health care than most countries. We could switch to capitalism and use the savings to pay off the national debt in 4 years
     
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    its certainly is not good. There is no free lunch although stupid liberals always imagine that magical govt can create a free lunch. We got from stone age to here thanks to the Republican supply of new inventions, not magical govt. Growth in the future can only come from the same source. Do you understand Econ. 101
     
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