Could a real estate boom plus better Fed policy pay off USA national debt?

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you understand that the outpouring of the Holy Spirit / Ruach ha Kodesh in Hebrew
    can profoundly alter the world economy?


    It is not a free lunch..... it is off the scale blessing and grace from our
    Creator who has promised the "restoration of all things" which........
    means that the curse on Adam that he would eat by the sweat of his brow.......
    would be removed from his great, great, great, ..... grandchildren.


    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04
    Former Atheist Howard Storm was shown a world where the work of the final Elijah had been accomplished...... The year for this was 2185..... if we humans would be humble and ask for this..... and repent.
     
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    no idea what outpouring of holy spirit means or why you think it would happen? Seems like you are nuts
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you do not believe in the validity of the prediction in Joel?

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/joe/2/1/s_878001

    Joe 2:28

    And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

    And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

    Or ......

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/isa/11/7/s_690007

    Isaiah 11:6

    The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

    And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

    .....
    To my thinking......
    dogmatic Atheism is silly.... and intellectually dishonest.......
    and Theism or even polytheism... allows for the possibility of the earth going through a massive upward shift in many ways that would seem impossible at this time.


    Where did Intelligence begin, in matter or fundamental energy?
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...begin-in-matter-or-fundamental-energy.465052/
     
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    no idea who Joel is or why I should believe his predictions. Does he have any stock market predictions?
     
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    absurd waste of time to quote the bible. you can merely tell us you believe all it says literally, ask us to read it, and then leave us alone.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes...... a Jubilee year began on Yom Kippur 2016 so expect the foundation to be laid for a total paradigm shift by the day before Yom Kippur 2017......


    Leviticus 25:9

    Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubile to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly!

    Could a Utah State Dollar save the USA Dollar?
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-the-usa-dollar.349935/page-2#post-1064140043

     
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    Dennis, not in real life can there be a rural real estate boom. There arfe no jobs out there and farming is a financial loss business. There ain't no money out in the sticks.

    But I do think it's the responsibility of cities where all the economic activity and money is being made, that they have a responsibility to pay for rural infrastructure with their tax dollars.
     
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    great I'm selling my house that's been in my family now for 5 generations to take advantage of your religious predictions!! Thanks!!
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, well next time you see him or her, tell them that we'd like to see them (at the very least) on TV.

    You needed a "faith crutch". You found one ...
     
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    It's a mixed effort. We can't expect housing to be fully paid out of public funds. There must be the element of personal investment in housing to assure its upkeep. Or it just sinks over time into dilapidation.

    Preferential loans to purchase, backed by major-city funding, could be a solution - but it would have to be watched-over by a higher authority. (That is, to keep it honest and send manipulators to jail. After all, public funds are being used partially to guaranty a private loan.)

    So, lower-cost (but not "cheap") housing subsidized by the federal government could help families to live decently - if they are planned and executed around the large cities where jobs are being created. Let's remember: All those "industrial jobs" started leaving America three decades ago in the early 1990s. Look around any large city in America and one sees desolation and derelict buildings where once the employed worked.

    I keep proposing the same solution: Government subsidy of higher-education (post-secondary) such that "workers" have the modern skills companies are seeking today*. Bernie (first) and Hillary (who adopted the idea into her platform) called for free Post-secondary Education at a state institution of higher learning (subsidized by the Federal Government) for any couple earning below $100K a year. (Which is about the combined average/median wage of $54K today in America.)

    And the Electoral College stole Hillary's popular-vote victory to give us Donald Dork ...

    "Stoopid is a stoopid does" (Forrest Gump)

    *So they go off to India either to hire talent or to subcontract hi-tech development-work.
     
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    I just noticed an article where billionaire George Soros is quoted.......

    his ideas do fit with what I suspect may happen.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/george-soros-class-war-619/
    George Soros predicts riots, police state and class war for America




    I don't like what I have read about the goals that this man seems to have but.....
    he is certainly not stupid.... and
    what he predicts could well lead to an exodus of Americans away from the cities
    to begin a different type of life in rural America.
     
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    Soros predicts it because Soros is going to cause it. That's how he spends his money, and incidentally he also makes his money by there being chaos in the world.

    I hope one day the Feds get smart and take Soros out. And confiscate his money. But first they've got to catch him with some evidence.
     
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    This is a free country!! If someone wants to live peacefully and quietly in a rural area where there is little economic activity or noise or pollution or traffic he is free to live there and to pay his own freaking bills for living there.
    If kids want to move to SF or NYC because its a hip place to be they should have the freedom to do it and to pay their own freaking bills. Libcommies have 10001 reasons for always more and more welfare!! Democrats can reduce all their political comments to two words: more welfare!!!
     
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    Nope, there are haves and have-nots. Cities always have the wealth and rural doesn't. And rural has a large area, so high upkeep of roads/utilities/ect., with few tax payers. So the payment for these things should come from the cities. Besides with all the people there in the cities they are going to out vote the rural areas and only put into place policies and programs that are beneficial only to the cities.
     
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    you don't want a real estate boom. you have some of the lowest, if not the lowest real estate prices in the western world. it's constantly astonishing to us (outside America) to what your houses/farms etc sell for.

    in the cities of this country, a very small, two bed one bath house, run down and poorly built, will fetch a million American dollars .. easily. sometimes two million. a one bedroom apartment up to a million.

    a large (by our standards, but probably small by yours) house on acreage on the edge of a reasonable country town will cost about the same.

    yet our incomes are not so much better than yours that it works about the same. it really really doesn't.
     
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    especially if you subsidize the have nots and thus reverse evolution and Republican capitalism. In the 1950's black teen unemployment was lower than white teen unemployment, then libcommies stepped in with welfare and made unemployment, ghettos, poverty, and prison permanent..
    A liberal always has 10001 reasons for more welfare. This liberal wants rural welfare as his 10002nd kind of welfare. Tall people do better than short people; shall we make that 10003???
     
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    For all of his many flaws, and we are all very flawed, President Donald Trump has been out to improve
    Federal Reserve policy for nearly three decades.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump


    Obviously..... although he is well up there in the one percenter class....
    back in 1990 Mr. Donald Trump had no say whatsoever in the Federal Reserve
    upping interest rates so that even large developers were paying such exorbitant rates.
     
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    Wanna know how Soros made his first million?

    By having illegal "insider information" (from a English cohort in crime) about a projected change in the British pound rate that the Treasury was about to announce. He sold pounds and made his fortune.

    What he knows about social consequences is about as good a guess as anyone's. I too have predicted societal upheaval in the US - but I expect it to be led by blacks who no longer believe in "equality of chances" because they are so far down the economic ladder. (

    See here for comparative median wages by ethnic grouping:
    [​IMG]

    That does not mean that some idiot white-Nazis in Virginia will spark a riot heard round the world ...
     
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    But in this last election the rural vote..... won out over the vote from the cities.
     
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    Which is a rare occurrence. In state politics, especially New York state the rural counties get out voted by New York City. So then we get a liberal governor instead of a conservative one.

    Well, I'm not complaining about governor Cuomo, he's a good guy. But once the democratic party bosses got through with him he stopped implementing policies that benefit upstate farmers.
     
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    Only because of this archaic device called an Electoral College.

    It has no place in a modern democracy, and ONLY the US employs it.

    The popular-vote is the ONLY justified electoral means ...
     
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    the US is the greatest country in world history by far so not surprising we don't copy inferior countries. Let other countries defeat the Soviets and Nazis, police the world, invent modern medicine for the entire world, and prevent nuclear proliferation; and then we'll copy them!!
     
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    BS of course, if people in small states have no voice they have no reason to be in the union. Make no mistake liberalism stands for welfare. Liberals want more welfare recipients voting so they will vote for their own welfare. This is not democracy, it is theft!

    "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
    -Benjamin Franklin
     
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    And that's how our Constitutional Republic is supposed to work, neither by majority nor minority rule at the Federal level of government.
     

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