Could a real estate boom plus better Fed policy pay off USA national debt?

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  1. LafayetteBis

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    Only because the Electoral College is warped in terms of numbers of popular-votes per EC-vote giving "rural states" a ponderance that they do not deserve.

    The popular-vote is the ONLY vote that is fair and equitable, which is why - in most real democracies and even in our own state and local elections - the popular vote is employed universally. Except in one country, and only one national vote - that of the Executive.

    The one perversion of this rule is the Electoral College for electing a PotUS. It's high time we put down the 14th Amendment that never should have been voted in the first place.
     
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    On the plus side.....
    this does seem to have set up the USA with a President who will be inclined to
    want to do something with the concept of JUBILEE!


    Leviticus 25:9

    "Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubile to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land."

    I believe that President Donald J. Trump has been prepared over his entire lifetime to deeply want to see that JUBILEE happens in 2017 just as predicted by Rabbi Judah ben Samuel.

    Donald Trump - Wikipedia

    ......
    ."Later in 1988, Trump acquired the Taj Mahal Casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey, in a transaction with Merv Griffin and Resorts International.[67] The casino was opened in April 1990, and was built at a total cost of $1.1 billion, which at the time made it the most expensive casino ever built.[68][69] Financed with $675 million in junk bonds[70] at a 14% interest rate, the project entered Chapter 11 bankruptcy the following year.[71] Banks and bondholders, facing potential losses of hundreds of millions of dollars, opted to restructure the debt."

    A FOURTEEN PERCENT INTEREST RATE IS UNETHICAL..... interest costs on a loan..... are a cost of doing business and are therefore INFLATIONARY...... yet supposed experts state that high interest rates are being used to curb inflation?! President Trump has known that his first bankruptcy was caused by decisions made by people whose goals do not correspond well with what most Americans really want.



     
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    Finally..... I think I know why some high level managers at Ford Ltd. arranged to have at the least two high mileage Ford vehicles delivered to Canada.

    The man who told me about these cases felt it had been a mistake or accident...... now I am thinking that this was a brilliant long term marketing strategy that could soon alter the whole formula.

    A Ford Ltd that seems to have been getting 70 - perhaps 90 or more miles per gallon was sold to a man from Cherry Hill, near Bridgewater back in the 1970's. Another high mileage Ford vehicle ended up in the hands of a man from Moncton, N. B. Ford knew that the President of the USA has the power to over rule patent legislation that is abused by the big oil companies that keeps these products off the market.........
    but what Soros and Buffet seem to be planning puts President Trump and his team in a position where they have to act fast in order to make owning land outside of towns much more economically feasible.........
    simply by making the cost of travelling back and forth significantly lower.

    R...... B..... told me about the Bridgewater case and I am not sure who told me about the similar thing that happened in Moncton, but that might have been him again. The man from near Bridgewater, N. S., Canada thought that his gas guage was broken but when the service team looked at his car they confiscated it and gave him another one that got lousy mileage like all other Ltd's at that time. The man in Moncton knew what he had and refused to sell his vehicle back to Ford until he was paid five or six million dollars but this was not a loss for Ford....... this created what many would say is an "urban legend" but I think it is brilliant long term marketing because managers at Ford want to put those high mileage carburetors on the market...........
    imagine an F-150 that gets more than seventy miles per gallon.......
    it would blow all competition out of the water and set the stage for the prediction quoted in post #1.
     
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    Aside from electric cars, there is only one way to accomplish that feat. Diesel engine cars.

    Which Europe adopted in a big way a great long time ago. But another factor is also size of the car.

    Cars in Europe are smaller, even in identical car categories. Thirdly, Europe is a much smaller place than the US, so average distances yearly might be smaller as well.

    All these factors are reasons why it is very difficult to compare mileage differences between the two geographical entities. Still, it seems axiomatic that larger cars preferred by Americans will have worse mileage than generally smaller European cars.

    I suspect this last one is the major factor. The quicker nonetheless that a majority of car-drivers employ electric cars, the better for everyone everywhere ...
     
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    The last government initiated real estate boom, broke all the banks world wide.

    If the government sold all it's real estate it may well be able to pay it's debts off. What's the White House worth to some Saudi?
     
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    switching to capitalist health care would cut prices 80%. that would be enough to pay off the debt in a few years.
     
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    True........ because the hospitals were private... the quality of health care in my wife's nation Ecuador.... was downright impressive.
     
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    Private health care is just great for maximising amenable mortality. The market does like to maximise!
     
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    yes to maximise quality in order to beat the competition and live to compete another day.
     
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    A friend of ours who has cancer has travelled to Mexico for alternative treatments that
    she was positive would be more effective........ and have less negative side effects than
    chemotherapy and radiation combined with surgery.

    My wife and I and her husband consider her to be wise indeed.........

    ..... .but back to the idea from the opening post..... here is one angle on why..........
    real estate in rural areas might just rise and rise and rise in value to
    Americans!

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04
    Howard Storm Ph. D:
    Howard Storm Ph.D. is not saying that prayer and only prayer was what was making the difference...... . This scenario was for the year 2185 and is it possible that labour saving devices for back yard gardening could be highly effective and productive within 170 years or so from now?
     
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    Real estate boom, is followed by real estate bust.
    Cf banking crisis.

    Trying to rig the economy, just redistributes the wealth. It creates nothing.
    It's solution to nothing.

    Just bribing one electorate over another.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ordinarily that would be true but the shift in attitudes that Howard Storm was shown
    during his near death experience..... will shift the economy
    for a minimum of a thousand years.


    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04
    Howard Storm Ph. D.:
     
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    I don't know about animals living with humans in harmony. I have a tendency to eat them.

    Seems like a pleasant enough dream he had.

    My own near death experiences are more along the lines of the Angels and Valkyrie's variety.
    It's good to be loved and gardening is not where it is at.
     
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    Ezekiel chapters 40 - 48 seems to indicate that the Era of Moshiach is not
    totally vegetarian.......
    so that may be good news for many of us.


    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04
    If lions though become vegetarian......
    I guess we humans may follow suit soon afterwards?!

    Isaiah 65:25

    "The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD."
     
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    Ezekial. That's all the mad stuff. Can't beat a bit of Ezekial.

    This blokes dream. Just a dream.
    I have my own dreams. My own prediction.

    I predict lions will lie down dead.
    Killed by man. For stealing our food.
    It's not straw that they shall eat but lead.
    Or live in zoo's as pets.
     
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    That is very logical.......
    but it is challenging to get people united around a long term vision
    that could really boost the economy.......
    and the nation of Israel seems to be in the middle of some of the most
    promising ideas that can alter the whole formula.

    That Sorek plant is AWESOME!

    Should Sorek 2 be in Australia or California?

    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/534996/megascale-desalination/

    Megascale Desalination
    The world’s largest and cheapest reverse-osmosis desalination plant is up and running in Israel.


    Isa 35:1


    The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.


    Isa 35:6

    Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.
    And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water:
    in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.
     
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    I think things that are seen to be smart are adopted.
    It is not challenging to get people to adopt success, it would be challenging to prevent them.

    Desalination is famously mega expensive. So it won't be sensible to adopt it everywhere.
    California wastes water. I mean they really waste water.
    Lawn sprinklers. WTF.

    Still they have much money so they are candidates for desalination plants.
     
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    I am thinking that many nations may begin to look more seriously at desalination due to the colossal costs of building dikes, dams and huge pumping stations in major cities to combat rising ocean levels.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...change-is-real.503883/page-15#post-1067789386


     
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    Around the seven minute mark in this interview.....
    a theory is given that would make the paradigm shift in the USA possible that could
    mean that Americans in large numbers... .could afford second homes in rural America.

    Basically... .America becomes a net exporter of oil.....
    and the national debt is paid off.....

     
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    In yer wet wild dreams...
     
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    Oooo, hardcore. Forgot the theory mind you.
     
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    then they will start fracking.
     
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    America is probably the worlds no.1 oil producer. It could easily pay it's government debt off by taxing and exporting it's oil.

    However I believe if a government like this gets more money, it won't use it to repay debt, but instead use it as leverage against more.
    The US debt ends when the Ponzi scheme breaks. And the Union breaks up at this time.

    They aren't going to pay the debt off. They are going to borrow more.
    And more.
    And more.
    And more.

    Endlessly cycling debt if they can, forever.
     
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