Could Bernie Sanders get the nomination and be the next POTUS?!

I know polls change, and it's still kind of early but he is really gaining ground nationally, and he's beating Hillary in Iowa and New Hampshire and anybody knows if you win Iowa and New Hampshire the tide follows in your favor, he's doing very well with independents/moderates. What are your thoughts?

 

clear the paint or get faced by the Sanders slam dunk

 

If Democrats were smart they'd pick Sanders over Clinton. The word "socialist" doesn't beat him. All the coverage of Obama hanging out with bombers, radicals and anti-American people didn't hurt him.

Clinton is intensely unlikable nor is she independent. She is controlled now by the establishment, the powers of inner Washington which can used the email potential prosecution to make her do anything they want her to do. In a sense, there is no Hillary Clinton, only her controllers.

 

IF Trump is not the Republican nominee, and he gets angry and feels he was slighted by the RNC, he WILL start and independent run (the dude does not
take losing well). If Trump does that - then he will split the Republican/Tea People vote and Sanders could slip in there.

Everything depends on the Republican convention. It's theirs to lose - and Trump holds all the cards - either they RNC bends over for Trump and
he becomes the nominee or he walks and splits the vote.

 

When I see the pundits say he's not electable, I chuckle. He's beating all of the Republicans in the polls. They're scared, because they're feeling the BERN! Hillary is losing to some Republicans in the polls.

 

Sanders doesn't need anything but the black vote and more exposure

 

I think no one can defeat Hillary.

 

He could get the nomination. However, unlike Obama he cannot become POTUS. Unlike Obama and unlike Trump he will not pivot to middle. He's going to live and die with the message of spending and collecting trillions of extra dollars in taxes. Unfortunately for him this is America, not Europe, and it's not going to fly among most Americans. Yes, Americans are disgusted with Washington, but they enjoy stability. Bernie's base of hippies, college kids, and unemployed liberals will not translate into the votes needed to beat Trump in a general election. Bernie Sanders is a threat to the entire financial services industry and many members of the middle/upper middle class. Many of them plan on voting for Clinton, but they sure as hell aren't going to vote for Sanders. Sanders would be the nuttiest major party nominee since William Jennings Bryan.

 

If Sanders is not the Democratic nominee, and he gets angry and feels he was slighted by the DNC, he WILL start and independent run (the dude is an angry old man who has already accused the DNC of not playing fair). If Sanders does that - then he will split the liberal vote and Trump could slip in there.

Everything depends on the Democratic convention. It's theirs to lose - and Sanders holds all the cards - either they DNC bends over for Sanders and he becomes the nominee or he walks and splits the vote.

 

Could happen - but I don't think Sanders has the same vindictive qualities as Trump and I don't think anyone is thinking that the Democrats are
in the driver's seat in this election. So unlikely.

 

That's funny. ALL he needs is the "black vote." That's ALL - and "more exposure."

ALL Trump needs is the "independent vote." That's ALL. And then he is the president.

ALL a person needs to solve their financial problems is to win just one lottery. That's ALL a person has to do.

 

Ehhhh...it's possible he could win if he got the nomination. I've seen the talking heads, particularly the left leaning ones, dismiss his chances because of the socialist label. It's like, they love him, but he contaminates himself by calling himself a socialist. They seem to just be scared of the world socialist. However the electorate has changed quite a bit so I don't think self identifying as a socialist is the deal breaker it might have been a generation ago. I mean, I thought there was no chance that the electorate would vote in a guy who's mentor was a race baiting radical preacher, and who was friends with an actual domestic terrorist, but they seemed to get over that, so who knows?

 

A lot depends ...

How much momentum would wins in NH and Iowa bring him?

Can he articulate a financial plan for his programs that doesn't turn away voters?

Will Hillary be forced out of the race by an indictment?

If Hillary isn't forced out, could Sanders win CA?


Interesting times ...

 

Trump's not going to run as an independent. There's nothing in that for him except losing an election, and that would be so unbearable to him - and with nothing to gain - he won't do it. Rather, if there is an independent run it will be someone small - libertarian or some disgruntled candidate like that Democrat candidate who dropped out and threats to run as an independent. But even bleeding off 1% could reverse the election outcome.

 

if his base was so marginalized he'd be gone instead of making historic money and crowds with crossover voters and major interest.
yes, Clintonites will go for a commie if they have to

maybe, but with the right moves Sanders could steal enuf from Clinton to best the never right candidate, and it won't be Trump

 

I believe it is MUCH simpler than that. The media talking heads WANT contested primaries. There is millions and millions and millions of dollars in it, as in ratings. So they will make it a contest in the Democratic primary for a while longer. But if Sanders is getting REAL traction, they'll shut him down.

The real frustration to the media at this point is they don't know how to burn down Trump - so they can go thru half a dozen front-runners and then knocked off Republican candidates like the media did last time. Remember how many Republicans the media built up to being the front-runner - and then declared a scandal that meant the candidate can't win - self fulfilling prophecies?

It will be Clinton over Sanders. The question is can the Republican media somehow STILL get Bush, Christie or Kasich to be the nominee over Trump or Cruz. Rubio is already figured to be the VP candidate.

Seriously, for the past 3 decades, for elections they should just have called in the media CEOs and each gets as many votes as they have viewers - and they pick the president as that's how it worked.

 

Too many people will see Bernie as a threat to their jobs. Anybody who works in healthcare or financial services will have an extremely hard time voting for Bernie. Trump has also swooped up a lot of potential Bernie supporters by being anti-trade himself. I also think that being Jewish hurts his support a bit. Makes it easier to tie him to Karl Marx and lots of lower class OWS types are anti-semitic.

 

No. Trump would beat him like a rented mule.

 

kons have joked themselves out of the running inless they go whole hog with a Rubio, Bush, or Christie and that's doubtful now, for once it's all the Dem's to lose, and Bernie's not a loser

Trump has all he's gonna get, Sanders has barely tapped his market

or like a month ago

 

Unlike Trump, Sanders has been very clear that he does not intend to split the party.

 

it'll get brutal against Bernie, but Trump hasn't a chance in taking anything from Sanders and workers will risk for him if they see him as a winner

that mule will put both hind feet into his chops, no contest

he won't need to consider it

 

Hence the endorsement from the Nurses Union. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/30/nurses-union-vows-to-continue-backing-bernie-sanders-through-its-super-pac-despite-his-anti-super-pac-stance/

 

He's running his campaign against the private health insurance comps, and wall st of course they're not going to vote for him. And I don't think him being Jewish will hinder him, we have come along way as a people, years ago we never thought a black president would be elected and boom Obama.

 

Yea, because Americans were naive and they were easily fooled.

Let's hope they will not:
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But something something tells me I should not have high hopes for the collective IQ of the Americans.

*Siiiiiiigh*

 

The stigma of Sanders being a self admitted socialist will prevent him from getting the nomination of the party that he is not a member of.