Could Lucifer be the name of the white horse of Revelation.

Could Lucifer be the name for the white horse of Revelation 6 and 19?

Psalms 18:10 "And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon the wings of the wind."

Revelations 6:2 "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

Could this be Moshiach ben Ephrayim / Yosef?

Revelation 19:11 ¶ And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war."

Could this be Moshiach ben David?


http://www.politicalforum.com/index...eby-verifies-old-earth-and-gap-theory.368149/


NDE of Dr. Richard Eby verifies old earth and gap theory.

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Ezekiel states Lucifer was a Covering Cherub.......
but Moshiach /Messiah rides on a Cherub????/



If we imagine Lucifer.... as once looking like Pegasus.... but then
getting really, really, really, really jealous over Adam and Eve......
the entire Biblical account can begin to look different........
much more positive.........

 

http://www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Eze&c=28&v=1&t=KJV#top

Ezekiel 28:12 "Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire."

Please don't let the fact that Dr. Richard Eby's NDE may already have all came to pass
in another time line...... example of Multiverse......... completely confuse you..... because this could
help to explain even more than an Old Earth.

http://www.near-death.com/science/articles/richard-eby-and-secomd-coming-of-christ.html

Dr. Richard Eby's NDE and the Second Coming of Christ

 

Maybe I am wrong........
but I suspect that the real Pegasus.......
would gladly accept the name "Lucifer".... if it meant that by doing so.........
the real Lucifer could be brought several steps closer to
The G-d of Abraham / HaShem / YHWh.......
and The Word / Logos and the other Elohim.......
and the Holy Ghost.... the Shekina Glory of G-d........


Although YHWH is One.........
YHWH.... is capable of creating individuality..... for many reasons......

Genesis 1:26

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"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

 

Sorry

The Tanakh has no connection to the christian bible or books of the christian bible


https://outreachjudaism.org/who-is-satan/

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/satan-the-adversary/


http://www.shamash.org/lists/scj-faq/HTML/faq/12-35.html

 

I don't blame you for thinking this.......
Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was NOT an alien - human hybrid as
either Essenes or Gentile edited Luke to indicate .........


He was the youngest of twin sons of a Jewish woman who was told by the Holy Spirit
to go and sleep with her husband Yosef / Joseph.... before all aspects of the
Essene wedding had been performed........ YHWh wanted the twins born at a certain time.......

and was showing supremacy over marriage.......... and over the people who felt that they
had a monopoly on all such rituals.......

If you were to read page 107 to the end of this book you would know that Tanakh does indeed have many connections to the first century Messianic Jewish movement.........

but... you are correct that there is little connection between the TAnakh and paganized Roman Christianity..........


https://books.google.ca/books?id=kbiGjKJl4D4C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

Revelations is apocalyptic literature- akin to Nostradamas - had trouble making it into the Bible and it was considered spurious by many of the early church fathers.

What is interesting is looking at how Satan (aka Lucifer) is portrayed in the OT - Book of Job.

Satan is shown as a Son of God. The relationship between God and Satan is that of Father and Son.

The story of Job has Satan chide God. Satan is up in heaven (presumably for come ceremony - perhaps God's birthday )

Paraphrasing - God remarks to his son .. "have you seen my servant Job .. look how much he adores me"
Satan responds, chiding his Father - "Well yeah Dad .. you gave him everything - take all that stuff away and see how much reverence he has for you"

God takes Satan up on his bet - He tells Satan " OK - take all of Job's stuff away but, do not touch his body"

Satan then makes fire rain down from heaven destroying his property and killing his servants - he also has his family killed. Job is unhappy but does not blame God.

Satan then returns to God. This time God says OK you can harm his body but do not kill him. Job has it rough.

The point my telling this story is not to comment on who wins the bet. The point is to examine the relationship between Satan and his Father. It is not one of animosity. It is a typical relationship between Father and Son.

Note also that Satan does not act outside of his Father's will.

It is true that Satan is cast as one who tests humanity - as he tested Jesus - but, this is doing his Father's will. Satan could then be considered against man at times but, not against God.

 

Brilliantly stated.....
as you always do........

In a sense.... riding on "Cherub Lucifer' could perhaps be a metaphor for conquering ego........


http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/christian-andreason.html#a13

 

I imagine Lucifer to be a gruesome Imp, who relishes in the Painfully blocked Bowles of those who feast upon the fetid flesh of Pride.

I don't imagine many will hold my imagination with high regard....

Then again, my imagination's sketchy.

 

I was kind of hoping that his actual motivation was perhaps more along the line of
Stanley Milgram Ph. D......... who I believe.......... really liked the people who REFUSED to
obey the Authority Figures who gave the orders to zap the learner subject????!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

.... but... Lucifer....... may be in a position where he isn't really free to make it common knowledge that he actually despises his most obsequious followers.......
and only actually has respect for his opponents........

 

Yup.... that Job guy......
even if he wasn't quite as great as Rabbi Yeshua / Jesus......
was impressive..... and I suspect that he may have been implying
something important with this........
Job 39:20 - 25

Horses can get pretty attached...... so all that time as the Covering Cherub right there with the Ancient of Days the Father and the Holy Spirit and the Elohim / Seven Spirits of G-d... and those 24 elders........ and then to see the Word / Logos spending so much time and effort on Adam and Eve.......
that made him jealous........
but that much jealousy emerges out of love......
just love that goes wrong.........




Jeremiah 8:6

"I hearkened and heard, but they spake not aright: no man repented him of his wickedness, saying, What have I done? every one turned to his course, as the horse rusheth into the battle."

If Lucifer looked like Pegasus......
or was Pegasus....... then his getting jealous over G-d's attention being elsewhere other than on Cherubs.........
especially on Covering Cherubs......
might tend to get him riled up.......

 

Have you ever read The Book of Adam and Eve
that was preserved into our time period only in Arabic?

http://reluctant-messenger.com/eden_1.htm

 

Could lucifer mean jesus?

"How you are fallen from heaven,
O morning star, son of dawn!
How you are cut down to the ground,
you who laid the nations low! (Isa. 14:12)"

Dawn refers to the begining. Son of dawn is son of beginning. We know the beginning in the bible is god. So lucifer is the son of god.


"I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star. (Rev. 22:16)"

Lucifer translates to morning star. So both satan and jesus are lucifer. Maybe jesus was lucifer. Maybe lucifer is a side of jesus? Like his subconsciousness?

Rember how he traveled with jesus trying to tempt him?

Maybe lucifer and jesus are brothers?

 

That is an interesting theory.........
on one level I do believe that there is a false Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus in the minds of people
who may bear little real resemblance to the real Rabbi Yeshua that people who have a near
death experience can meet with and see teaching his disciples..............

That Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus is truly and actually Jewish.......
whereas the false Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus in the minds of so many
seems very pagan........


Did Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua teach the same things as Rabbi Nachman of Breslov?
.....

 

The Devils favorite is dark hell.

 

Is it because it's still a trinity and is 1 less than 7?

If I was satan and I truly thought that I was better than god, I'd pick 888

 

Or 107.

 

Just as Napoleon stated while on Elba that he missed the p....
so also Lucifer and Azazel and Pan and the gang..... they miss the
female angels of heaven.............

They probably can't figure them out any better than we can human women but............
i betcha they miss them........?


http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/christian-andreason.html#a11a

 

Exactly........ Eight is the number of new beginnings........
very insightful...........

 

107 is The Devils Life number.

 

Then it wouldn't be a trinity comprised of equal parts

 

If Lucifer was once a Covering Cherub then he was an angel.............
Azazel, mentioned in Leviticus 10:16.... was once a son of G-d.....
King of the Watchers.........

The fallen angels and fallen Watchers could in some ways be comparable to the
Artificial Intelligences that we are now planning......... and developing.

Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus, being a Jewish man and a human being.......
is certainly different......

http://reluctant-messenger.com/eden_1.htm

I have came to a rather important conclusion that Yoseph/ Joseph, the husband of Mary Myriam..... was actually the father of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus and his twin brother Judas Didymus Thomas...........
I believe that the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary... and told her to go sleep with her husband....... while they were engaged not married......
this is perhaps symbolic of the ability of the Messiah to appear to people now... while they are still human.... and is not limited to meeting us when we die........


I no longer believe in the Virgin Birth of Jesus/ Yeshua!

 

From what I read Satan was made of/covered in gems. Gods glory would reflect off from him and shine on to the host of angels.

So when they saw satan they also saw gods glory. And when the angels would bow to the glory of god, they were technically bowing to satan himself.

So I guess he was like a projector? That's probably why he was able to sway 1/3 of angels in heaven

 

I have a gifted friend who I have got to pass this on to as soon as possible......