Could President Trump and Rudy be heroes??????

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by DennisTate, Nov 17, 2020.

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Are you open to the idea that President Trump and his team are heroes????

  1. Yes... they are preserving true democracy in America... voting must be legal.

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  2. No

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  3. This whole thing is pretty confusing?????

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't bother watching anything on CNN much these past few years.... (just once in a while for the occasional laugh and)...... what I am hearing in the sources that I have been listening to could soon present Americans with two possibilities........... both of which are kind of extreme!

    President Trump and Mayor Rudy Giuliani are either heroes up there with Lincoln and JFK and Washington......... or.......

    I will leave the "or" to others to elaborate on .....



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    I admit it..... I'm Canadian and I love my nation but the question has been on my mind for several days if
    perhaps the only way for Canada to prevent our descent into being like Venezuela....... would be if we
    were to adopt certain aspects of the USA governmental model?????

    Should Canada adopt aspects of the USA political model to avoid ....

    You may wish to see post number two over in this discussion on the Canadians forum...... like Ms. Sidney Powell's interview... it is kind of a shocker!

     
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    I'll one-up you.

    Why not combine both ideas in this thread and we will send Trump and Ruby up to you. Two for one! Please consider it an indefinite loan.
     
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    So I can assume from your answer that you believe that the e-mail that I copied and pasted here as a warning to my fellow Canadians is some sort of "Conspiracy Theory?"




    Should Canada adopt aspects of the USA political model to avoid ....
    ... our possible descent into being like Venezuela??????


     
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    I could not honestly say those two are any worse than average....but "heroes"????
    Me thinks you are exaggerating a bit.
     
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    After biden is done destroying the nation Trump is gonna be looking real good but hey biden is forgiving my student loans so I am getting mine.
     
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    Perhaps..... that will depend on to what degree it is true that a group of NSA and CIA people who DID NOT want to cooperate with drug dealers and human traffickers went to Mr. Donald Trump and asked him to campaign for President..... and promised that they and their team would do all in their power to protect him and his wife and children and grandchildren and friends.......

    .... in spite of the fact that once the group in the NSA - CIA WHO DO WANT TO COOPERATE WITH drug dealers and human traffickers feel that they are genuinely threatened......... they knew that all hell would break loose....... and a major part of BigMedia, a major part of BigPharma, and a major part of BigBanking would go after President Trump to destroy him and his team in any way that might work!?


    If that theory is true... then yes....... "heroes" is indeed the correct term to use!


    QAnon... who could it be?

    ...... I am really into these types of issues:

    As you can see from my four previous campaigns for public office..... here in Canada.


    My 2006, 2008, 2016 and 2004 campaign writings as ART.



     
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    It looks like Biden took winning this election for granted but he and his team could not have guessed that about a million or more Trump supporters more than expected would show up to the polls........ which left them scrambling to manufacture far more ballots than they had expected to need!

    Their efforts to manufacture extra votes for Biden were sloppy........... and there will be indictments and I believe that the results in several states will be overturned.


    Data deep dive on Dominion Voting Systems offers incontrovertible proof of election hack
    If the Trump campaign and his army of attorneys don't have this information yet, they need it as soon as possible. This is the smokiest gun we've seen so far.

    by JD Rucker

    November 11, 2020

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    Exactly why they needed extra time to "count" the ballots.
     
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    YOU GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Here is a good video on the history of voter cheating in America.

    https://stevepieczenik.com/2020/10/01/opus-242-just-vote-for-trump/


    Here is an article that explains how this sting was done.


    https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic...pull-off-the-sting-of-two-centuries-by-j.html


     
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    The very word, "hero" has been so 'done-to-death' that I can barely even stomach hearing it used anymore. I can't vote in the poll.

    We haven't had any "heroes" in this country's government since John F. Kennedy stood up to the Soviet Union and forced it to remove intercontinental ballistic missiles from Cuba that were pointed at the U. S. -- a mere 90 miles away. THAT took an enormous amount of GUTS -- especially back then!

    It scared the living hell out of everybody, but Kennedy never blinked once! Khrushchev blinked instead, and after that, no one ever posed a serious existential threat to the United States ever again....

    [​IMG]. "Yeah, but if just ONE of our B-52's gets through, your ass is toast!"
     
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    Giuliani is an embarrassment to all of America. He should stick to Borat movies where he plays with himself cause he thinks some young girl actually has an interest in his viagra fueled sexcapades
     
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    President Trump, Rudy Giuliani and his legal team are risking their lives and careers.

    The goal is to prevent the extreme left from taking over in America through wide spread voter fraud.

    This sound like a rather heroic goal to me.


    "Rudy Giuliani makes WILD claim that there was "mass cheating" in the 2020 election"
     
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    Even if Trump/Giuliani are able to produce proof that there was mass cheating in the election, indication to this point is that the change in actual electoral votes would not be nearly enough to overturn the apparent result.

    It is fair to say that Donald Trump, despite the radical, America-hating Democrat Party sabotaging every good thing he did for four years, failed at getting rid of "the swamp". Do you see that?

    To me, it is painfully obvious that if Trump played the part of Leonidas of Sparta, then, yes, he was defeated by a more powerful "Xerxes the Great" -- a multi-headed "hydra" character composed of Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, Nadler, BLM, ANTIFA, and millions of underachieving American 'cattle' who grew more and more desperate in their quest for "free stuff".

    This political "Battle of Thermopylae" was doomed from the beginning, really -- and not a little of the defeat was due to Trump's own arrogance, carelessness with FACTS ("Mexico will pay for the wall!"), and misguided economic policies ("Stock Markets über Alles!").

    I voted for Trump in both presidential elections, of course, if only because the Democrat alternative was far worse. And, sadly, the only real victors I see in our uniquely American civil war are our opponents -- CHINA and RUSSIA. But does that make Trump a "hero"...?

    [​IMG]. Too bad for you, Trump -- "Xerxes the Great" won at Thermopylae....
     
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    You get a point for your concession. Save up 10 points and you get a little gold star for your scrapbook.
     
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    I have encouraged all you radical Democrats to revel in your victory and enjoy it thoroughly. After all, at this time in 2016, we Conservatives and nearly everyone in the 'sane, responsible Middle-Class' were overjoyed at Trump's victory.

    But be aware -- yours may very well develop into a Pyrrhic victory -- as our own 'victory' turned out to be....

    Still, fair is fair -- for your 'gracious-in-triumph' you get one point. Save up 10 points and you may get another welfare-handout from the government.... But in about another twenty years, I'd suggest that you'd better be able to read and write Mandarin Chinese!

    [​IMG]. "Here it is -- '愚蠢的美國人' translates to 'Stupid Americans'...."
     
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    I know that President Trump and his team are heroes – I have a lot of respect for people who despite of cruel reality follow their dreams. For me President Trump and his team deserve a place in history, like people who believe that the earth is flat or people who believe in reptilian conspiracy.

    I am chained to reality, but President Trump with his team freed themselves and reached the new fantastic world. Good for them!
     
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    The one hundred wealthiest families on earth have hired brilliant economists, brilliant lawyers, brilliant educators, and they pay their C.E.O's on average eleven million dollars per year in salaries and benefits to manage their companies with more than a certain number of employees.... , (partly to lie and withhold critical information from average people).

    The financial elite fear a reduction in the prices that they charge for BigPharma products.... and they knew that President Trump might just do something like he does in this video ......





    AMERICA'S DRUG PRICES: President Trump Says MAJOR CHANGES Are Coming To Benefit All
     
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    Thank you for your humorous response to this topic.

    I remember one time when President Bill Clinton stated that both George W. Bush and John Kerry were basically "good buys"... but... they each have a different world view. Bill Clinton had an IQ around 170 or so..... and his assessment of that situation was definitely insightful...........

    I personally am biased toward any sort of solution to the situation in the Middle East that would result in deserts deliberately being turned green........ so I am really impressed by what President Trump has accomplished in the Middle East so far........ but I am really impressed by his efforts along with Rudy and his legal team to address the issue of voter fraud........ that I believe is a colossal..... .not small problem.

    Can you see why I would rather like what President Trump and his team have accomplished in the Middle East?

    After the Abraham Peace Accord turn deserts green...


     
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    What do you think of these questions?

    Is this an at least somewhat logical train of thought?


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    I thought Trump had signed an Executive Order last summer reducing the price of pharmaceutical medicines.

    A friend of mine refilled a prescription for an expensive drug he takes for breathing problems and he said that the price had not gone down a bit!

    But, hell, I think we can also remember that Trump told us all four years ago that "Mexico is going to pay for the Wall".... :confusion:

    I voted for Trump in both elections, but the truth is the truth.... :lonely:
     
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    At least he and Rudy do seem to be trying their best to make sure that the voting rights of more than seventy million Americans is protected.

    Rudy begins to speak at the fourteen minute mark... his audio gets good after about one minute and he finished up his first testimony around the twenty seven minute mark. This is powerful information and logic.




    LIVE: Trump and Giuliani participate in hearing on voter fraud in Pennsylvania (Nov. 25)
     
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    I am too cynical to believe that a man gets to be POTUS and a hero. The world is not so kind. In my opinion, a hero is someone who expresses a great amount of selflessness. Their ability to put something else above their own self interest - even to their own direct disinterest, is what makes them heroic.

    They run into buildings with planes crashed into them to help survivors. They defy (but do not switch) their party to vote their conscious on something incredibly contentious. They disclose information to great public interest that their own country has been persistently violating their rights.

    No presidency is awaiting people with such a trait. Death, the demolition of their career, and exile await such people.

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    Yes they could although I think they will have to eventually concede.
     
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